For Stinky - Bonito and False Albacore

[Blue_Runner]

I did a little research for ya Stink...
To the untrained eye bonito can be confused with a false albacore especially if you don't have experience catching them. They can be distinguished from the albies by their long thin stripes running upward and laterally along the sides of their iridescent bluish-green bodies. When hooked their sides will light up and produce triangular shaped vertical bars that can be seen beneath their horizontal stripes. Their mouth will have teeth that are spaced and they will usually range from four to six pounds when we see them in the suds.

The false albacore on the other hand will be larger in size usually ranging from six to eight pounds but can go upwards to thirteen pounds in our area. Their bodies are football shaped and have wavy lines on their bluish-green dorsal surface. Four to five dark spots below their pectoral fin is distinguishing characteristic.
Bonito AKA dinner:
http://reelbuzz.com/fishreports/fishnfool/images/DSCN5320.JPG

False Albacore AKA chit:
http://www.saltwaterflies.com/jon_benstead_sj04a.jpg

[Airslot]

BR, they are identified correctly, but I ain't eating either one. Yuck ;)

[Blue_Runner]

I take it you've had both Slot? I have had neither, but always heard one is great and one is terrible...

Then again I've heard people say the terrible ones are good too but I think those folks were starving ::)

[Stinky_Hooker]

I dont know what the first one is....we ont have those here, but the second one is a BONITA. ;D

[charlie_the_tuna]

dont much matter.
get either one one a ten pound spinner and it'l strip the hell out of you.
they fight like heavyweights and deserve to be released.

[randlemanboater]

A buddy of mine who fishes a lot of king mackeral tourney's likes to use either one cut into strips for bait.

[THEFERMANATOR]

I dont know what the first one is....we ont have those here, but the second one is a BONITA. *;D


X2, That's what we suderners calls em andywayz.

[frayed_knot]

Gulf coast guys call it a Bonito, but it IS a false albacore. Lookie here http://www.thejump.net/id/false-albacore.htm

[Airslot]

They do make great bait no doubt. ;D

Everybody has different tastes. I get guys begging me for false albes...they make tuna salad out of them, think I'll some for lunch today... ;D

[Blue_Runner]

we ont have those here, but the second one is a BONITA.
Yeah yeah yeah, I guess you call all soft drinks a "Coke" too right? ;D

[Stinky_Hooker]

we ont have those here, but the second one is a BONITA.
Yeah yeah yeah, I guess you call all soft drinks a "Coke" too right? *;D


well they sure as hell aint "pop" ::) ;)

[frayed_knot]

well they sure as hell aint "pop" *::) *;)

WORD!!!

[Blue_Runner]

Airslot - Well, how was it?

[Airslot]

Tuna Salad....was excellent, but it wasn't false albe salad either ;D

[Blue_Runner]

What no pics ;D ::) :P :-*

[Airslot]

Man, I thought Hammer was sleeping. Wonder if Blue Runner knows Hammer stole his log in... ;D

[randlemanboater]

I had a hot dog for lunch, but some people call em franks or wieners, but it was a HOT DAWG!!

[twistedparrot]

speakin of hungry, what about the first person to ever try an oyster? i mean, how hungry was that dude?

[tsubaki]

That was them starving indians on the bluff. After they figured out to throw them on a fire not so many died from hepatitis and diarrhea.
Being an aphrodisiac was probably not the case then, just walking around in a stupor from the effects of food posioning. ;D

[Blue_Runner]

Funny you bring up the indians....me and my lunch buddies had an interesting conversation today. The subject was cavemen and indians. The main dispute was what's the difference? And whether or not cavemen lived in America. Having been an avid indian artifact hunter for the past 4 years I've done quite a bit of research on the subject but getting people to believe me is a different story. Not to mention there are several theories on native americans and how and when they moved into the area we now call America.

What I found is basically that the word "caveman" is a misnomer that people use to describe how they percieve aincient man to have lived. Hairy, hunched over, carrying a club, draggin women around by their hair, etc etc.

Indian is a misnomer as well because as you and I both know - this ain't India - but that's the name Columbus gave them because he thought he had landed in India. So really the most appropriate name for these first Americans is Native American or in other words the first humans to live in America.

Then we digressed to evolution vs. creation and somehow landed on that old TV show "Land of the Lost" talking about Sleestacks, Pylons, and why the dad left one season and got replaced by the "uncle" ;D

I have great friends here at work! We love to debate! ;)

Ok, so what, I hijacked my own thread ::)

[tsubaki]

Oh get me started on the "native americans" being "one with the land".
I have a passion for finding their trash that they have thrown about in their quest for food.
I have almost stopped collecting shards of pottery unless they are unique.
The indians basically used all the resources in their local and then moved on and would return to the same area the next year or even 200years later depending on the resources availability.
Wandering nomads best describe them.
Oh and by the way one part of my Heinse 57 bloodline is Seminole. My great grandmother was full blooded.

[Blue_Runner]

Ok Tsub - can't tell if you hate em or love the Native Americans from that rant :-/

But, I'll say that I think they did an outstanding job (intentional or not) of managing their God given resources...it wasn't until "white man" came along that we had to have EVERYTHING. No, we couldn't be happy just being able to eat, sleep and reproduce....heck no. Gotta have as much of everything as we can get our hands on! So dam greedy IMO. Hell that's the reason I'm stuck behind this desk right now working for somebody else! Whoever decided we need to work 40 hours a week needs to be slowly tortured to death.

Tsub if you are seriously an artifact hunter, I'll post up some pics of some of my finds for ya...if not I'm sure you don't care to see em.

Blue

[randlemanboater]

40 hours a week? Man that would be great, I am scheduled for 57.5 hrs this week.

[tsubaki]

Love to see them. I have literally nothing too interesting.
I am so interested in them I spend more time looking when i'm supposed to be fishing and hunting.
It just gets up my butt people that have no idea of how impossible it was to survive to age 35 during their era.
I did researched the tribe locations before the relocations and ''Trail of Tears". It is amazeing the entire struggles the indians have endured. Hitler is a kindergardener compared to what the USA has done, I think it was Andrew Jackson that implimented the process.

[Blue_Runner]

Yeah but I bet you get paid for anything over 40 too, unlike me....I put in 36 hours STRAIGHT once.....31 another time....not so much as a THANK YOU. I came in the next day worn out and my boss said in his best smart @ss voice and I quote, "Awe, poor baby."

Work sucks.

[Blue_Runner]

I did researched the tribe locations before the relocations and ''Trail of Tears". It is amazeing the entire struggles the indians have endured. Hitler is a kindergardener compared to what the USA has done, I think it was Andrew Jackson that implimented the process.
AMEN, AMEN, and AMEN I agree 1000%

We visited Cherokee NC 2 years ago and saw the trail of tears production...very moving.

[Blue_Runner]

BTW, my daughter and I "hunted" yesterday evening. ;) Didn't find much, a tip here, a base there, and a scraper. Got good and muddy!

I'll post some up soon. Keep an eye on "off topic".

[tsubaki]

I'll do it.
The area we are in will not hold hardly anything except pottery. If we find a piece of spearpoint or arrowhead, it was imported.
I'll try to get pictures of the shards. The most interesting one came from north Georgia and ended up on one of the barrier islands.

[Blue_Runner]

Uploading my "point" pix now. Will post shortly.

So all you find is pottery shards? Never found one....all I find is spearpoints, birdpoints, scrapers, knives, and tomahawks ;)