We need to start a 60mph club.

[UBHSTRY]

Just a thought:beer:

[draglink]

NO NO NO NO NO!!! That is going to cost me serious $$$$.......I want in!!

[spareparts]

only 60?

[UBHSTRY]

Well spareparts, with a little luck, this weekend we will need to upgrade it to the 70MPH club :sun:

[RidgeRunner]

All in and subscribed.. Be careful.. 63MPH mine starts to chinewalk a bit. I need to loose some weight and work on my aero package if I am gonna keep up with the small block.. T-top and refrigerator for a console would be the first things to go then the 40 gallon livewell. Why do I feel like my top end number is a fixin to be crushed?? :hide:

[UBHSTRY]

Hehehe ridgerunner, we hit 60 with lots of room to spare, fully loaded with 2 250 pound guys, and my little 160 frame, full cooler, and full 60 gallons of gas.

[Shrek]

Now I really am going to need to start looking for a 300 supermag. Let the horsepower wars begin.

[RidgeRunner]

Better dig deeper than the 300 supermag if you want to keep up with the 383 in hp and torque. But then the power to weight ratio kicks in at some point as does the limitation and drag of running a fully submerged lower like an I/O. If fuel were cheap a Shaun Torrente 375 Stroker. Basically a 3.0 liter Merc with a stroker crank, downdraft style intake with tight heads port timing and exhaust chest like the 300X, lightened flywheel, custom fuel and ignition curves. Simon Motorsports does something similar. It is only dollars (cubed).

[UBHSTRY]

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=172175732843697

Just a video off of my phone, with sound :hide:

[randlemanboater]

Yall could go 100 mph if you put those mills on a boat designed to go fast......but I like how you are thinking.

[Shrek]

Better dig deeper than the 300 supermag if you want to keep up with the 383 in hp and torque. But then the power to weight ratio kicks in at some point as does the limitation and drag of running a fully submerged lower like an I/O. If fuel were cheap a Shaun Torrente 375 Stroker. Basically a 3.0 liter Merc with a stroker crank, downdraft style intake with tight heads port timing and exhaust chest like the 300X, lightened flywheel, custom fuel and ignition curves. Simon Motorsports does something similar. It is only dollars (cubed).
:thre:

It's all about power to weight. Doesn't take a lot of energy to make a feather fly.

[Shrek]

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=172175732843697

Just a video off of my phone, with sound :hide:

:clap:
I do love that nice lopey idle. You have to give us some high quality boat porn now!

[UBHSTRY]

Workin on it...LOL

[UBHSTRY]

Yall could go 100 mph if you put those mills on a boat designed to go fast......but I like how you are thinking.


Now where would the fun be in that?:booty:

[UBHSTRY]

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=561
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=560
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=559
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=558
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=557
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=562
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=563
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=564
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=172175732843697
The video of it running.

[captpete13]

Talk about pimp my ride! Wow! Gotta know if she hits 70.

[bgreene]

I like the shag carpet........ if I ever get one of these boats, think I'll do mine in even deeper pile carpet, leopard print.......and put curb feelers on my trailer.

See what I've done- this was a nice web site about quiet little classic style runabout boats, and I've ruined it.

Talk of pushing em' over 60 mph, rigging with monster outboards.
It's just wrong.

[UBHSTRY]

I like the shag carpet........ if I ever get one of these boats, think I'll do mine in even deeper pile carpet, leopard print.......and put curb feelers on my trailer.

See what I've done- this was a nice web site about quiet little classic style runabout boats, and I've ruined it.

Talk of pushing em' over 60 mph, rigging with monster outboards.
It's just wrong.

:beer:

[RidgeRunner]

Spongebob is fairly pimped out if I recall Capt Pete, with a sleeper under the cowl too...

[UBHSTRY]

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=172470976147506

[step up here]

ah com on get rid of the kicker motor.:clap: what are we talking here almost 500 hp ???
awesome to the max!

[captpete13]

Spongebob is fairly pimped out if I recall Capt Pete, with a sleeper under the cowl too...

yeah it is. But I'm only seeing low 50's. I'm always on the lookout for a bigger motor for a good price though

[UBHSTRY]

ah com on get rid of the kicker motor.:clap: what are we talking here almost 500 hp ???
awesome to the max!

LMAO, I DID take it off later in the day...LMAO As to HP, well, I figure its right around the 450-500 with a 750 or 800 carb. I have it choked off a bit with a 600. It has the HD drive gears, shower head, and just so much more. Man, it was like monster garage for boats....:sun: Just had a super day with it.

[UBHSTRY]

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=172470752814195

[UBHSTRY]

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=566
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=567
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=568
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=569
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=570

[UBHSTRY]

Just a few pics of the details coming together on her....

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=571

[UBHSTRY]

I never let you guys know how fast she floats....LOL


We did NOT hit 70mph. I have it limited to 5300rpm, and all she will give me there is 67mph. Its not bad, bouncing the front end, but I am sure that has more to do with my skills in getting trimmed right. It didnt do any chine walking, I wonder if there is a differance between the I/O boats and the Outboards???

We were not light by any means, full tank again, 60gallons, and 2 250+ guys, and me, at 160. One yeti cooler full of pepsi. We were on the water about 730am, then promptly spun the prop hub:head: after a speed run. But, got a new one on, and we where in the boat till 900pm:sun:

I have to admit, it was really cool being the fastest boat, including jet skis, on the lake wendsday. Them poor boys never stood a chance....:nut:

I also got looked at funny, and kinda implied I didnt know what I was talking about at the local marina there, when I was hunting for a prop hub for the "Bravo 1 24p" for the Wellcraft 20V. Promplty took the guy for a ride after it was fixed....he was simply stunned:sun:

[bgreene]

You ask about outboard - the boat for sale on Long Island, Lindenhurst I believe.
He's got a racing powerhead on a Merc 200hp and claims to hit 65mph.
It's less than 300 hp, but that's what he says it will do so whatever.....

Another cool thing about the rig you've set up is that it can " cruise " at 50 mph all day, just loafing along !

[UBHSTRY]

well, more importantly, does this guy look happy?
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=572

[bgreene]

He looks like a guy with a V that goes over 65 mph.

[spareparts]

that calculates to 16% slip, not bad, but not real good. How much throttle do you have left in it at 5300? You may want to step up to a 26 p. Using the same slip, that will put you at 73. You should have better slip numbers with that prop

[UBHSTRY]

Well, believe this or not, I had the prop on wrong :head: Maybe affecting the slip %. I had two back washer on it, which had it spaced out about 1/2 inch. I have allot of throttle left. Like, way bunches. I have it all limited thru the ignition. If I had the nuts, I am pretty sure I can turn 6500-7000rpm with that prop.

Well, spent the day converting the trailer from roller to bunk, here are some pics....

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=574
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=575
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=579
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=577
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=581

[spareparts]

I think you need to try another prop, btw, be easy on those hole shots if you want that drive to live. I've converted a couple trailers with that set up, its not easy, but its worth it.

[UBHSTRY]

This prop is going to have to work, unless someone wants to trade down to it, for a larger one...LOLOLOL

Not doing any heavy holeshots with it, trying to stay alive:hide:

[UBHSTRY]

........ then promptly spun the prop hub:head: after a speed run. But, got a new one on, and we where in the boat till 900pm:sun:



Hm, found out why, had the prop on wrong........it had TWO backing plates on it....what a learning curve:fight:

[UBHSTRY]

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=595

[UBHSTRY]

Just was wondering, as I was looking thru here, how many do we have in the 60+ and 70+ club now? :hi:

[Genie Aye]

I am in---made a run from Seattle to Cape Flattery and back in less than a day--and it was not opened up===

But the best is 113.4MPH on radar going across Lake Washington---It was CRAZY fast!!

[RidgeRunner]

Huh? I give up, Genie has it Aye? Anything over 100 is just plain bragging. :clap:

[UBHSTRY]

I am in---made a run from Seattle to Cape Flattery and back in less than a day--and it was not opened up===

But the best is 113.4MPH on radar going across Lake Washington---It was CRAZY fast!!


Holly crap......I guess I am going to need to change the rev limiter from 4700rpm to the full boat 6500rpm.

Might get us to triple digits......

[Destroyer]

I made a run down to the shore @ around 75mph. Distance of around 45 miles... Then I got there and got it off the trailer. Does that count?:hide:

[UBHSTRY]

I made a run down to the shore @ around 75mph. Distance of around 45 miles... Then I got there and got it off the trailer. Does that count?:hide:
LMAO, ya, thats what I figured ole boy did when he went 113.....or atleast pushed it off of a cliff....:head:

[Genie Aye]

Huh? I give up, Genie has it Aye? Anything over 100 is just plain bragging. :clap:

Holly crap......I guess I am going to need to change the rev limiter from 4700rpm to the full boat 6500rpm.

Might get us to triple digits......

Did I fail to mention it was in a 38 Fountian with twin 750HP engines and full race outdrives and 5 blade props---LOL

But it was fast as Hell----My hair hurt from the wind burn:you:

Would not want to go anywhere near that fast in my V-20---even on the trailer---LOL

[UBHSTRY]

Did I fail to mention it was in a 38 Fountian with twin 750HP engines and full race outdrives and 5 blade props---LOL

But it was fast as Hell----My hair hurt from the wind burn:you:

Would not want to go anywhere near that fast in my V-20---even on the trailer---LOL

LMAO, glad to know this now....as I WAS thinking of running that Bravo 1 up to 7grand......:hide: I figure we have more than enough left to keep uping the ante if need be in the need for speed.:sun:

[bgreene]

My V21 with current 150 hp Evinrude looper runs approx. 41 mph light with top down.

Off a cliff........... as I wrote, tough to call but with enough space, maybe over 100.

[jasoncooperpcola]

Lets talk practical outboards on a bracket that can hit 60. So far we have the 250XS. .

[RidgeRunner]

Finally! Giant displacement car motors with a wicked case of the hops don't count. :time::sun:

[reelapeelin]

I saw 77 on the GPS in my buddies Skeeter Bass Boat w/a 225 V Max...that was on day 1...motor's run in now and she's toppin 80...

[Kracker Jack]

I guess with the 135hp im putting on mine i should start a 30 mph club!!!:sun:

[bgreene]

Problem is ...........the V's only rated up to 200hp.

So, I suppose you have to be an " outlaw" to run with more hp.
The most powerful 200 outboards are the etec HO and the Merc Optimax, both producing well over 200 actual hp at the prop.
Genie Ayer's boat with the etec HO I believe he said runs about 52 mph WOT.

Now as for inboards..........who would know how much hp ?
I'd really like to see more video of the V that was running about 70mph........was porpoising a bit, but I bet tabs would fix that issue.

[jasoncooperpcola]

What about a hopped up 280hp 2.5L Merc? Leave the 200 Cowling on and nobody would ever know. The V20 my trim tabscame from had a worked on Merc 2.5 and was running 55.

[reelapeelin]

What about a hopped up 280hp 2.5L Merc? Leave the 200 Cowling on and nobody would ever know. The V20 my trim tabscame from had a worked on Merc 2.5 and was running 55.

If it'll stay together, run the pi$$ outta it!!...:happy:

[bgreene]

How fast is too fast for this hull ?

Since we've seen the video of guy running over 70mph, and just porpoising a bit.....I'm thinking maybe 80 or so........before even straight line flat water running become's truly " iffy."

At some point the hull might even go airborne, then tumble, spin, break up, and that's it.

Yup, this is contender for the most rediculous posting on the site.

[UBHSTRY]

I think 80 is doable. I know we could hit it in the v20, but 70 is plenty in this boat. Plus, not very often it can be opend up. BUT, it gets great milage:sun:

[bgreene]

I think 80 is doable. I know we could hit it in the v20, but 70 is plenty in this boat. Plus, not very often it can be opend up. BUT, it gets great milage:sun:

Is yours the V I saw in video running about 70 ? If so, would like to see more video !!

[UBHSTRY]

Is yours the V I saw in video running about 70 ? If so, would like to see more video !!
Not mine per-sey, I built it for a good friend/customer of mine. After blowing around a local lake for a summer, taking on all challengers, and promptly leaving them in our wake, it resides on lake erie now simply as a fishing boat, that can out run the storms...LOL

If we can get some smooth water there, and get it opened up, I will take more videos of it for you. It runs a Bravo 1 24 pitch 4 blade prop.

If your on lake erie, and see a mid 80's v20 with a yellow outdrive on it.....beware :)

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=595

[UBHSTRY]

Look for this guy.....probally one of the happiest V20 owners on earth:sun:

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=576

And he rants and raves how good the economy is on it.....turns very little rpm to cruise mid 20s with. And, that was really the point of the build, to save gas......

[bgreene]

Not mine per-sey, I built it for a good friend/customer of mine. After blowing around a local lake for a summer, taking on all challengers, and promptly leaving them in our wake, it resides on lake erie now simply as a fishing boat, that can out run the storms...LOL

If we can get some smooth water there, and get it opened up, I will take more videos of it for you. It runs a Bravo 1 24 pitch 4 blade prop.

If your on lake erie, and see a mid 80's v20 with a yellow outdrive on it.....beware :)

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/community/picture.php?albumid=93&pictureid=595

LAKE ERIE - is it ever flat or calm on Lake Erie ? I've been there when it blew 30mph for days on end, and that short steep chop of 6' completely closed off to boaters.

Anyway, sure if you can get more video, fantastic - show the rear wake so we can get an idea of speed, and from a dock with the boat going by WOT if possible.
Did you put tabs on it to cut the porpoising ?

[UBHSTRY]

Rarely is it ever flat enough to run that fast at Erie. It has had trim tabs, but now they work .....LOL I have a video of the wake, will need to dig it up. I have none from shore :( but, if I get the chance, i will shoot a HD video form the dock.

[UBHSTRY]

found this real quick....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=172470752814195&set=vb.100001538157610&type=3&theater

[bgreene]

What was the approx speed during that video ? Looks fast but hard to estimate....

[UBHSTRY]

That was around mid 60's. IIRC, right at 65 or 66mph.

[steplift20]

60 i was so happy to get 35 out of my steplift

[bradford]

Ya'll got balls. I'd be scared of stuffing the bow at those speeds in any kind of seas.

[Destroyer]

Ya'll got balls. I'd be scared of stuffing the bow at those speeds in any kind of seas.

Ditto!!

[RidgeRunner]

I recently helped pull a man out of the drink for excessive speed malfunction ie. 18' /90 mph rig doing fly-bys took flight off a boat wake. Thankfully nobody was injured. I think he got complacent and forgot where he was for a moment, it only takes a second.
Conditions on lakes, rivers and near shore allow speed on ocassion but it is still inherently dangerous. A simple boat wake becomes a hazard with more speed. IDK about 70 or 75mph in a V-20, huge pucker factor. That much speed requires a lot of boat out of water. Would it fly straight when you do get it aired out? We may never know..
Anything over 50 needs to be approached with utmost respect, always. Wear the vest, attach the kill switch lanyard and have some boats there in case Mother Wellcraft decides you need a bath.