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MAC67
06-01-2011, 10:53 AM
Well, after the pain and suffering of trying to find a cheap boat and looking at one to many piles-o-crap we came across a V20! I instantly fell in love with it and now it's making sure my driveway does not blow away! My brother, (CJSCustoms on here) and I are going to be restoring it and will hopefully have it going by next year. So far it's been clean, clean and then a little more clean on top of that as it has been sitting for quite some time. We are new to the whole boat thing so any advice would be great. Love the site and it has allready been a great help, here are some pics of the work we have done.
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reelapeelin
06-01-2011, 11:51 AM
WOW!!...pics on the 1st post!!...you've jumped right in and w/one of the classics...pictured below is a '74 I had for about 10 years...laid out much the same as yours, I had great fun w/it and know you'll do the same w/your '77!!...cruise thru the Gallery for idea starters
Lots of work ahead...go for it, you'll never regret it...and once you splash her there's no lookin' back!!
Do you have outboard selected yet? Would suggest 150 min, but several here are very happy w/Zuke 140s...how's the transom?...solid or will it require a rebuild?...if it needs to be rebuilt, I'd strongly suggest rebuilding to a 25" transom...better in many ways...if solid, leave as is and go w/the originally intended 20" motor..just gonna depend on the level of restoration...
Great pics!!...welcome to the madness around here...ask ANYTHING...SOMEBODY will have an answer for you...pics of the progress (no matter how ugly) are always good
MAC67
06-01-2011, 12:05 PM
Thanks, and yeah, I love pictures! We are kinda waiting to get a motor untill we are farther along and we find a money tree! Been reading up and will prolly get something in the 150 to 200 range. We haven't really decided on the transom yet, it has a couple cracks in it and one side is a little swollen. I did the drill a hole thing and it does not seem super rotton, but we have to do work there any way so if it would be better to raise the transom that is what will prolly happen.
Road King Cole
06-01-2011, 12:10 PM
Welcome, and you have come to the right site!!!!
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MAC67
06-01-2011, 12:13 PM
Thanks! This site is the reason it ended up coming home with me. All it took was a couple quick looks through the gallery! You all have some beautiful V20's.
smkinnan
06-01-2011, 01:31 PM
welcome, your amongst friends....
randlemanboater
06-03-2011, 07:19 AM
Welcome to the site!
MAC67
06-03-2011, 09:48 AM
Welcome to the site!
Thanks buddy!
Hedge
06-03-2011, 09:52 AM
I am new as well. Good luck with the boat:sand:
MAC67
06-03-2011, 11:21 AM
I am new as well. Good luck with the boat:sand:
Thanks, good luck to you as well! I just wish I had the funds to start buying stuff lol.
CJSCustoms
06-03-2011, 12:24 PM
if it needs to be rebuilt, I'd strongly suggest rebuilding to a 25" transom...better in many ways...if solid, leave as is and go w/the originally intended 20" motor..just gonna depend on the level of restoration...
I'm totally new to all this and I have to ask. What are the benefits of having a 25" transom verses the 20"?
Destroyer
06-03-2011, 03:42 PM
Thanks, good luck to you as well! I just wish I had the funds to start buying stuff lol.
You would be surprised if you knew how much stuff was handmade here because of just that reason... But that's the beauty of this site.. you don't just get "buy this, buy that"... you get honest to goodness answers to questions and a lot of "if you do it this way it will look and work better" answers. Welcome to V20 heaven.. :love:
Oh, and following seas (where the waves of water are being pushed at the rear of the boat because of the wind) don't splash into a 25" high transom as easily as they do through a 20" one. That 5" can make a whole lot of difference in the amount of water coming onboard.
nipper
06-03-2011, 03:49 PM
Welcome to the site. Looks like you are making good progress already. The teak looks great.
To answer CJS's question (even though I have a V20 cuddy with an I/O), I think the 25" transom is probably preferred over the 20" to keep less water coming over the stern.
Good luck with your restoration.
reelapeelin
06-03-2011, 04:22 PM
I'm totally new to all this and I have to ask. What are the benefits of having a 25" transom verses the 20"?
The extra 5" does add protection against water entering the boat's splashwell and that can be a plus in following seas as mentioned, but also at the dock when unexpected waves from other boats and weather roll waves toward the stern....actually when tied to a dock overnite or extended periods, it's best to tie off w/the bow out toward big water for the same reasons...also, when you leave your boat in the water and tilt the motor up, the foot clears the water entirely...allows you to squirt the whole motor off after a day in the salt water...
garbubba
06-03-2011, 08:05 PM
I honestly can't imagine a 20 inch transom, we were shrimping in 2-3 footers last week & the only way to pull up the trawl is stern to the wind & my well was full with a 25" transom!
Not many little boats like mine, but opening day in Biloxi is worth a bit of a beating!
Welcome aboard newbie!,
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CJSCustoms
06-06-2011, 03:02 PM
Thanks for the great info. guys.
Thanks Nipper we're real happy with the way the teak is coming back to life. The next thing on my list for wood work is getting the gauge bezel made. But before we map out the bezel I want to find the set of gauges that we are going to use. Anyone know of a company that sells white faced gauges, with red back light and a gold outer ring?
MAC67
10-29-2011, 04:23 PM
Well, I guess we are going all out with this so....... I cut the cap off the transom! The wood was delaminating and there is some rot in there, so we are going to redo the transom and build to 25". After all mah research we are going to go with seacast. This will be our first fiberglass job and after reading all the other post about newbies doing it I believe we can tackle it.
So I will follow with a bunch of pictures and I ask you peeps to tell us if we are doing it right, or of we are blowing it! Do I leave the thin inner fiber glass? How far up do I go with the seacast? Do I just fiberglass in the 20" cutout to 25"? I am now realizing what everyone says about this being pain in the a$$ to get all the wood out. If the link don't work it's because I am a tard when it come to this I pad crap!
http://www.kodakgallery.com/gallery/mobile/slideshow.jsp?sourceId=533754321803&cm_mmc=eMail-_-Share-_-Photos-_-legacy&localeid=en_US
CJSCustoms
10-29-2011, 07:01 PM
Not sure if it's my laptop but linky no worky. Maybe you should sell the ipad for something usefull for SheardBuilt.
reelapeelin
10-30-2011, 08:44 AM
Not sure if it's my laptop but linky no worky. Maybe you should sell the ipad for something usefull for SheardBuilt.
Link not working here either...FYI...
MAC67
10-31-2011, 05:26 PM
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bradford
11-02-2011, 04:23 PM
Thanks for the great info. guys.
Thanks Nipper we're real happy with the way the teak is coming back to life. The next thing on my list for wood work is getting the gauge bezel made. But before we map out the bezel I want to find the set of gauges that we are going to use. Anyone know of a company that sells white faced gauges, with red back light and a gold outer ring?
Google Faria Gauges Chesapeake series, I have them on mine and am happy with them.
MAC67
11-12-2012, 01:17 AM
Well I got back into it and am finally tackling the transom rebuild! Here's a few pics if it works. Just the basic cut the cap off and the rear of the floor. The stringers and floor look great so I will not be touching them.
I have a buddy who has a pretty good past of fixing old boats and he is going to help me lay in the new wood and glass. I am stoked as this is my first dive into fiberglass. We will be building it up to 25 inches as well while we are there.
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macojoe
11-12-2012, 01:29 AM
Glad to see you are still at it a year later!! As others have said, You will have a great time when done!
MAC67
11-12-2012, 01:39 AM
I have been back and forth with either getting rid of it or fixing it since I got my 16' Starcraft. But I won't let it get the best of me now and I intend on seeing it through so I can fish off mah own boat next salmon season! Plus there is not a whole lotta room on my small boat lol.
RidgeRunner
11-12-2012, 07:27 AM
Hang in there. Nice start, teak looks great. Good stringers, that is certainly good news. It won't take that long to get it done. Welcome to the site too, wealth of knowledge here on these boats.
MAC67
11-16-2012, 12:04 PM
Thought I would post some more pics of the work I have done cuz everyone likes pictures!
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macojoe
11-16-2012, 12:29 PM
looks like you getting a good start on the rebuild!!
phatdaddy
11-16-2012, 04:49 PM
looks good, one thing, while you have it open, make sure to seal the drains in the stringers. that's the notches in the bottom of the stringer where they meet the transom. they allow any water that gets in the hull migrate to the bilge. wellcraft did a pretty good job of encapsulating the stringers, but then drilled holes for drains and did not seal the raw wood. that,'s usually where the rot starts.
MAC67
11-17-2012, 12:52 AM
I think I get what you are saying. Glass the stringer top to bottom at the joint where it meets the transom? I was wondering why they notched like that!
phatdaddy
11-17-2012, 11:23 AM
i was refering to the little triangle notch at the bottom of the stringer, where the end meets the transom. there needs to be a way for water to get to the keel from the upper stringers. mine is an 85 abd they just drilled some holes with a hole saw to allow water to pass. all they had to do was take a small dab of resin and coat the exposed raw wood. they did paint it grey, but a dab of resin would have prevented a lot of grief
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