For Sale Old School

[willy]

OK here is the deal, 1985 V20, Cuddy
Started out as a OMC Sea Drive - converted in 2001 to a Armstrong Bracket by a pro mariner for his own boat. Bought a 1999 Johson 115 hp which was new and taken off a leftover Angler for sale at his dealership when the buyer of that boat wanted a 150. Installed new in 2001.
Fillet1 (Rich) bought the boat from him. Rich did a bunch of updates to the boat, built in tackle compartment and new hatches and rod lockers in the sides. He rarely used the boat as he was going out a lot on his partners 34 footer. Decided to sell.
I bought the boat in 2005 and made some additions, Lowrance color GPS 3500C new this year
Stainless kicker motor bracket mounted starboard transom area.
Garmin recessed Depth/Fishfinder on dash
Guest dual bank Pro Charger - boat has dual batteries
Battery Select Switch
New LED bow mounted running lights
New LED trailer lights as well
Bimini top with three sided enclosure
Trailer is a Load Rite single axle heavy duty with full size car type tires and three spares mounted on rims. Trailer is a roller style, a little rough looking but trailers beautifully.

Boat has been bottom painted previously but I do not leave it in the water so has not been re-done and the black color is fading.

If you go to Fillet1's gallery you will see the boat as he made some changes along with the enclosure
If you go to my gallery you will see some of the other changes I have made.

I know it is not the season to sell a boat, but I need to start now. If I need to I will winterize and sell in the spring.

I paid 6500 for the boat and have put a bit into it, on this site without the 9.9 motor I will sell it for 7000. The transom is hard as a rock, I can stand on the Armstrong Bracket and bounce my rather shapely 230lb arse on it and there is no movement, the floors are solid. Boat still needs some items addressed that I was going to do this year and due to circumstances never did.

Anyone who wants to talk about it give me a PM and I will send you my phone number, except for Stinky, last time I gave it to him the phone never stopped ringing, had to change the number

;D

[Stinky_Hooker]

And Im still hunting the new one. :P

[reelapeelin]

This would be a great one for somebody lookin' for a "ready-to-splash'' V-20... 8) ...

[macojoe]

The Maco copuld use a incloser, ::) Hmm could use a color GPS also??

Hey willy did I say I love you today?? If not I LOVE YOU :-*
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Really Good Luck selling her!!

[Blue_Runner]

IF YOU GUYS AINT SEEN OLD SCHOOL, CHECK IT OUT! *SHE IS ONE SWEEEET RIDE! *I HATE TO SEE YA LEAVE HER WILLY, BUT I KNOW SHE'S GOT SOME MORE WILD OATS TO SEW WITH SOMEONE ELSE AND THERES ANOTHER GIRL OUT THERE FOR YOU...SOMEWHERE.

BETTER HURRY THIS BOAT WONT STAY ON THE MARKET LONG! *FIRST PERSON TO GO SEE IT WILL BUY IT IS MY PREDICTION!
OLD SCHOOL
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/After-Pics/DSCF0028.jpg
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_09_28.sized.jpg
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http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/After-Pics/DSCF0035.jpg

[willy]

OK Wind Talker, for you $6,999.99 ;D

[macojoe]

I am going to change he name of my boat to WindTalker!!

[willy]

And Blue thanks, I was trying to figure out how to post them and it was not working. You should of included the one in my gallery with that studsly looking fellow standing beside it. Adds to sales appeal you know, ask Stinky ;D

[Blue_Runner]

You mean this dude? ;D ;D ;D
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_12_25_001.sized.jpg

[willy]

Yea good looking fellow heh :)

[Blue_Runner]

I updated some of the pics now that I realized I got old ones from F1's gallery. ::)

[LESTERUS]

WILLY:

THAT'S A NICE LOOKING BOAT!!!!!

LESTERUS

[charlie_the_tuna]

yeah but who the hell is that crazy lookin hitchhiker standin next to it?
guy doesnt look stable at all.

[TheTinMan]

Awesome boat!!! Someone git it! :o

Sits the best in the water than any other bracketed v20 I've seen...economical too!

[Seacrets]

The boat must take on some water. Checkout Willie's boat shoes. ;) ;) ;)

[willy]

First of all, I'm not stable, second those are my 13 dollar custom boat launching boots. And she looks so good in those pics I have tears in my eye. Maybe it's time for a glass of Uncle Jack ;D

[chumbucket]

Me and Jack have a history together. I didn't know you knew him intimately too willy. ;)

[willy]

Oh yea, we swap spits so to speak ;D

[macojoe]

I am sure CB will love sawping spit with you!! He has no problem sawping $#@ with me!! :o

[chumbucket]

Take that sh!t down to Provincetown with you. I was taking about Mr. Daniels with brother willy.

[macojoe]

Yea right!! *;) *I belive you!! Sure you were! *;)

http://syncboard.com/albums/album02/sex012.gif

[msbhammer]

Bother Willy,
Sorry to see you sell. Would have posted earlier, but my fingers were to numb to type on the key board because I dont have a enclosure. ;D Hint, Hint ;D.
Nah, really though, I couldnt log in on my home computer. Is it my computer or is anyone else having the same problem ??.
She's a sweat V Willy. Know how you feel with the neck. My neck is still screwed up. My patrol car never had a cage. i was happy not having one either, i'm so long legged. Now, its a pain to look left to right since I'm so crunched in now. Out looking at property and need quick cash myself for a house. Still debating to sell some dive gear or the V. Wish the best of luck Brother. ;)

[willy]

Thanks Hammer I always hated them cages, we have had them for a long time, hated them until one day some wise guy started spitting on me and I did a brake check for him. Just to make sure he was safe you know, or I think it was a dog running across the road, something like that ;)
He had a lovely pattern on his face that the nurse in the ER could not quite place.

And CB what the heck his sawping spit anyhow, I need an interpertation again ;D

[chumbucket]

I'm not sure if that's the Wind Talker in him or the Clam Whisperer ;D ;D ;D

He's been in rare form with the Wind Talking lately though don't you think?

[racerx]

RODNEY KING RODNEY KING!!! tell ya what, sell me that enclosure and i wont report you to internal affairs for excessive force,lol. stay away from the enclosure hammer. you could come under investigation for conspiracy and accessorie after the fact!

just kiddin guys, put the mace away. that is a beautiful boat though. and i do like the top. where did you get it and, if you dont mind me asking, what did it cost?

[msbhammer]

RacerX, I moved up to a tazer gun, flamable mace and a lighter. Back off on my bim top. LOl, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[willy]

I did not buy it, came on the boat, few years old. I have not even used the side curtains never needed them to date. I use the front piece all the time, keeps all the wind off while running and keeps the cockpit just perfect temp wise with the open sides. It has to be really howling and a good sea and me having to travel the wrong direction before I get any spray with that boat. I would use it if fishing in Nov. for stripes and that is about it.

[racerx]

i would like to get some performance numbers for that little 115, when you have time. she is a beautiful boat but, i am all the way down in ms. where are you located? wife in chicago till the 21'st. if you still have the boat i will talk to her about it then. dont get ur hopes up, yet. and surely dont pass up any reasonable offers. i figured a job wrong last week and have been debating on wether or not to refund the money. thing is, the price i gave is somewhat competetive with the post katrina prices down here. he aint askin for money, he was fine with the price i gave him and that is what we agreed i would do the project for. now, it's a question of do i want ur boat for free?
also, thier is a growing trend around here of this and that being for sale, till i go to buy it. then its another story. so i'll check with you around the 20'th before i talk to my wife. let me know then if you realy wanna sell it. i say i got a 50 50 shot at talking her into it, if i ask with diamonds(i mean diamonique, she'll never know)

[willy]

Racer it is definetly for sale, as far as performance this is what I know, with three guys, full tank of gas coolers and all the other fishing regalia along with the enclosure front up GPS says I am doing 32 mph.
Two things in ref to that, I have a standard Aluminum 15/17 prop and I think that there might be a better prop for my set up because under that load I max at 5200 RPM. Which my manual says is in the range but I believe 5500-5600 would be better. Second the only place I am even capable of using that motor is at the shore, Raritan Bay to be exact and I have yet to ever fish there on a day where I would be able to open her up for any length of time due to the condtions and my neck. The other end of that is that 115 launches that boat to plane with the standard prop very quick. As quick as my Robalo 1820 CC with Merc 150 did, also when I do the big tube thing with two or three big kids on and the other kids and CEO in the boat it is effortless for it. I do credit the Armstrong Bracket with some of that performance, how much I don't know.
One thing I do know is I filled the tank last month with gas and fished from early morning hours to dark with a full crew and load, running all over the place trying to find fish in all the wrong places, then took the kids to Lake Hopatcong and had a day of tubing fishing and cruising, used the boat for about four hours on Round Valley reservoir looking for Lakers then went to fill up this past sunday to go out for the day on the bay and it took 28 gallons. Thats right 28 gallons.
Don't know if it that is good compared to others but for me that is the norm with this engine.
I should also say one day when I first got the boat last year I was on the bay and close to Sandy Hook and the water was like glass at dead high tide and I got 35 mph with it trimed up higher than I would normally run.

[willy]

Lets try opening this pic.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_21_16.sized.jpg

[Pipe_Dream]

Beautiful pic, and you get all that performance out of a 115? :o

I am impressed. 8)

[willy]

Thanks Pipe, I'm trying to post pics like Blue told me but the photo is not opening as a pic just a link.
http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/After-Pics/DSCF0098.jpg

[willy]

Tin Blue told me a way to do it from the gallery, I thought I understood but apparently not :-/

OK, here is what I did.

Went to the gallery and clicked on a pic. All good. Then I right-click on the picture and select properties. From there I copy the Address (URL) and paste it in the post. In the post, just before the url you have to put . You basically enclose the address of the picture inside the img "tags".

Here is an example - I used parenthesis here instead of [] so you could see. Had I used the [] the picture would've shown up:

(img)http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_09_28.sized .jpg
(/img)

Let me know if you have questions. You can practice by PMing me if you like.

Later,
Blue

Don't seem to work for me, Blue got voodoo :D

[Blue_Runner]

???Dang man, I don't know ??? Hey the link works almost as good - at least you linked to a pic huh?!

[macojoe]

you have to start with

[img] * URL Here no spaces *then end like this [ /img]


or the easy way is to hit the little pic button in tool bar when you reply, then just copy paste the url between the img brackets!

[macojoe]

your first pic address is, I spaced the address so it woun't work.

h *ttp://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_21_16.sized .jpg

now if you do this, again I will space so it won't work!!

[img ]http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_21_16.sized .jpg[ /img]

[willy]

Thanks Wind Talker, I got it to work this afternoon after a long consultation with TinMan. He straightened me out ;)

[TheTinMan]

whats the top speed with that small of outboard?


Racer it is definetly for sale, as far as performance this is what I know, with three guys, full tank of gas coolers and all the other fishing regalia along with the enclosure front up GPS says I am doing 32 mph.
Two things in ref to that, I have a standard Aluminum 15/17 prop and I think that there might be a better prop for my set up because under that load I max at 5200 RPM. Which my manual says is in the range but I believe 5500-5600 would be better. Second the only place I am even capable of using that motor is at the shore, Raritan Bay to be exact and I have yet to ever fish there on a day where I would be able to open her up for any length of time due to the condtions and my neck. The other end of that is that 115 launches that boat to plane with the standard prop very quick. As quick as my Robalo 1820 CC with Merc 150 did, also when I do the big tube thing with two or three big kids on and the other kids and CEO in the boat it is effortless for it. I do credit the Armstrong Bracket with some of that performance, how much I don't know.
One thing I do know is I filled the tank last month with gas and fished from early morning hours to dark with a full crew and load, running all over the place trying to find fish in all the wrong places, then took the kids to Lake Hopatcong and had a day of tubing fishing and cruising, used the boat for about four hours on Round Valley reservoir looking for Lakers then went to fill up this past sunday to go out for the day on the bay and it took 28 gallons. Thats right 28 gallons.
Don't know if it that is good compared to others but for me that is the norm with this engine.
I should also say one day when I first got the boat last year I was on the bay and close to Sandy Hook and the water was like glass at dead high tide and I got 35 mph with it trimed up higher than I would normally run.

[C YENSEN]

ANY BITES YET WILLY? ???

[willy]

A couple of guys called, they need to work it out with their respective CEO's but in a word no. Thats OK, I got some eeling to do starting now and if I have to winterize it and close it up so be it. I can think of worse things than to be saddled with a nice V20.
Depending on what happens with me at my job the next few months I may have some cash to buy a decent shoot and skoot tin boat for local fishing, besides TinMan says he will hook me up if I need the feel of a tin rig during the winter for trout ;D

[dmoore]

Nice looking boat..........should sell no problem

[willy]

From your lips to his ears ;D

[willy]

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_21_16.sized.jpg

[macojoe]

I would by it but the Bimini top is crooked!! >:(

[fishbonejr]

I would by it but the Bimini top is crooked!! *>:(


looks like mine when the top is up. don't no how to fix.

[msbhammer]

M.J. dont worry about WILLYS Top and curtains, figured he donate them to another brother in Blue.
"Guilt Trip on Willy". ;D ;D

[willy]

Hammer Got a full Italian wife, I'm immune to the guilt stuff. ;)
Top is crooked cause I was pulling out and loosened everything so it would slide back on the slide rack easy. When underway starting out I tighten it in the slide rack.

[macojoe]

I didn't really notice! Just giving him some slack!! LOL

But I don't belive there is a stright soft top in the world!!

[reelapeelin]

I was pulling out


..."Doesn't sound manly to me, Bob...leave it in there, get the job done!!"...Geo. Carlin ;) ...

[TheTinMan]

I was pulling out and loosened everything so it would slide back

hmmmmm....http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/obscene/eck05.gif

[willy]

This is what happens when you try to sell a boat in October to a bunch of sex starved and or depraved men of various ages and fetishes.
I love it ;D

[willy]

Bringing Old School up to page one, needs a bump from page five.
I have thought about it and decided that I will reduce it on this site to $6800 and leave it there till spring.

[msbhammer]

Willy, you take monthly payments. ;D

[Skools Out]

Pics for you newbies

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/After-Pics/DSCF0028.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_09_28.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/album87/125184_R1_10_27.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/After-Pics/DSCF0126.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/albums/After-Pics/DSCF0035.jpg

[willy]

Thanks Skools ;)

Oh and the photos don't show that the bow rail has been removed for a cleaner look

[fillet1]

Hi Bill,

Thought I'd poke my nose in here since I'm getting a v-20 itch again..

Cant believe you are selling. She looks great.

Guys, I spent alot of time and put alot of work into this boat. The fuel economy is great with the 115 and speed is as Willy says.

Merry Xmas.

BTW I cant believe that I get no credit for founding the Norton Madness around here!

[reelapeelin]

BTW I cant believe that I get no credit for founding the Norton Madness around here!



Hmm....refresh our memory, there F1 ...
:D ...

[macojoe]

BTW I cant believe that I get no credit for founding the Norton Madness around here!


Member since March 2004 and only 390 posts??? You need to post more!! ;) ;D

[Franco]

Tell him Hoss!!

[Mac_Attack]

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Repairs;action=display;num=11154792 70;start=3#3

[willy]

Hey Rich, just saw the post, how ya doing bud?
Got to stop in and fill us in on your exploits on the big boat!
Old School running great, just closed her up for the season and I made some alterations to her, no more bow rail, you know that BIG norton snagger ;D
Give me a call or email when you get a chance, and Merry Christmas ;)

[reelapeelin]

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Repairs;action=display;num=11154792 70;start=3#3


Good find, Mac, but pretty sure "Norton Snagger" well coined by then...hated to see F1 drop out...hope he jumps back in here
;) ...

[willy]

Based on current boat(V20) values as observed in various other venues, Old School is now seriously for sale
1985 V20
1999 Johnson 115 installed new 2002
Aux motor bracket
Solid floor
Solid transom
Full transom with Armstrong Bracket Pro installed
Bimini with enclosure
Garmin Fish finder
New Garmin GPS 3500C
Starboard dash conversion
Teak bow pulpit with anchor roller
New rod boxes
New water tight hatches
New tackle storage center installed in dash
Six in gunwhale stainless rod holders
Two additional on Bimini rod
Dual batteries/Three way Perko switch
Guest on board battery charger
Bow rail (snagger) removed
Includes good over the road trailer/ with four spares
and new LED lamps
Super model imprints on seat cushions
Two Todd pedestal seats
New LED right and left running lights
Teak swim platform
All teak refinished

$ 15,000 Firm but for members of the brotherhood $14999 and a hand shake

[willy]

What no one calling me on this :D

[macojoe]

Was going to offer you $16,000, but you said $15,000 firm so I said forget it! ;D ;)

[willy]

Oh so that is how it is heh :-/

[willy]

OK, so no takers at 14,999.00 :-/

All right back to the original price and I will throw in a 2007 Brooke Burke calendar. Slightly used from the dungeon at CB's house ;D

[willy]

All right boys, something has come up and I may have found a small CC I am going to pursue. So I have decided to try and move Old School and will lower the price to 6000. That is without the kicker motor which I will need.
If it does not sell here for THAT price I am going to keep her until spring and sell her locally for the 6800.
So let me know if you are interested ;)

[Mulv80]

Somebody buy mine for $5000 so I can buy Willy's for $6000.

[msbhammer]

Mine is for sale for 5 grand as well. ;D

[Mulv80]

Yo Hammer is that a knock on my V >:( *Don't forget I have a 2000 Johnson 150 hanging on the back. Oh wait I just remebered how shiny your teak is I guess yours is worth $5000 ;D

[msbhammer]

Mulv, I'm adding in all the sweat, labor and Blood in with the cost. Along with the new teak. *;D ;D ;D
Plus the interest I'm paying for parts on my credit card. :o

[randlemanboater]

Hammers is worth more, its got teeth.

[msbhammer]

Thanks Randlemanboater, Thats right, I got the big teeth..."mouth" around here. ;D ;D ;D

[willy]

OK, time to bump the old girl up, page four aint going to sell a boat ;)

[msbhammer]

Mulv raised his selling price to $10,000. I raised my to $10,500.00 because of te new teak work and sex swing that goes with it.

[randlemanboater]

1984 V-20 w/ 1999 Merc 150. Comes with free ski tube.

$10750.00

[willy]

Wow, then I should be able to get six G's with no problem ;)

[randlemanboater]

Have you started advertising her yet Willy? About a month or two til everyone starts thinking boats.

[Mulv80]

Willy, sixTEEN G's ;)

[willy]

Nah Mulv 6 G's is more than fair I think. And no I have not listed anywhere but here.

[Carl]

Willy,

I sent you a message with some questions about the boat.

Thanks

Carl

[willy]

Got it sent one back at ya ;)

[msbhammer]

Where is Randleman and his Pics. >:(

[Carl]

Willy,

Thanks

I read it. I will talk to me neighbor tomorrow and I will let you know.

Carl