Engine poll: please everyone respond.

[bcraigan]

Ok, Here's my question. I'm considering three different engines.

1: 1989 Evinrude 140 freshwater use. All it needs is paint. (owner suggested a new water pump, but said it was pumping before...mainly age for a new one)
$900 bucks

2: 1996 Yamaha 150 saltwater series. Got some corrosion on it, but functions fine. 3?? hrs on it. No prop, or controls included in this price. $1800 asking price.

3) 150 or 175 counter rotating Ocean runner/pro. 1600, and 1800 bucks.

4) Keep looking...

[captpete13]

#1 sounds like the easiest way to get your boat on the water. Although you may be disappointed in the performance of the 140 compared to your old motor.

[bcraigan]

Well i've never actually had a motor running on this boat yet, so I don't have anything to compare to.. lol Meant to say I currently have OMC controls.

[reelapeelin]

#4:hi:

[THEFERMANATOR]

#1 or #4 would be my choices. YAMAHAs are good engines, but when you need parts it gets expensive REAL quick. The 150/175 OMC's are great engines, but I would rather have a standard rotation myself for better prop selection. The 90 degree OMC loopers are plentiful out there, and parts are readily available and cheap by comparison to the rest. Plus you already have the OMC controls.

[bradford]

I'm with Ferm, #1 or #4. #4 because as soon as you get something the deal of the century will get posted in the classified section.

I'll give you my old 90 model 225 with controls and prop for your Mckee.

[Skools Out]

i say #4 since you will be having the 140 shipped from NY plus there are a ton of 200 / 225 J/E motors out there.

[Blue_Runner]

I'll give you my old 90 model 225 with controls and prop for your Mckee.
#5

[bcraigan]

It doesn't run does it?

[nipper]

#1 if it runs well, is reliable and will get you out on the water for the summer. Then just keep scouring the ads in case it breaks down on you. And go ahead and replace the impeller.

[bradford]

It doesn't run does it?


Runs great on 5 cylinders! LOL!!

[macojoe]

1 or 4

[csvencer]

Craigan-
You mind passing the info along on the Yamaha, interested in what's available at that price. I am working on picking up a 98 Johnson 175 and just looking to compare. Won't make any calls unless you pass on it.

-Svence

[nymack66]

1 or 4 Ferm is correct in regards to Cost Of Ownership on a Evinrude, its the reason why I can afford an spare engine in my sandbox :)

[bcraigan]

Sorry y'all. The 140 is actually in sc now. Guy moved here from ny... its only a couple hrs from me. Waiting on a little more info on the yamaha. Leaning towards the 140 as it leaves me some work on money etc...

[willy]

#2 or #3

thoughts on it, well I may be opening a can of worms so I will preface this with the standard IMO
That Yamaha is far and away the best motor ever made for durability, reliabilty and is a strong performer. The boat mechanics I have known and dealt with over the years that were Johnny Rude and Mercury mechanics were mostly who I am speaking about have repeatedly told me that the electronics, construction and quality control of that engine specifically is the best there is.
I just got a price on completely redoing my 92 150 Yammie from a well known mechanic here in Jersey as I was considering replacing my 18 year old with something newer. Complete including a completely redone power head, rebuilt carbs, two new fuel pumps, redo of all seals and whole water pump in the lower unit and new shift rod if it was even needed plus some other stuff I can't even remember will be $3500 out the door.
He told me he would rather have that Yam 150 two stroke rebuilt than any other engine out there even newer and with very low hours.
He rebuilds them all.
With that said that JohnnyRude 175 would be sweet also, there are more props available for a standard rotation but are you really going to do anything more than find the right prop and leave it on? I have had them and they are good engines and the parts are cheaper.
My main thought on all this in that as much as I respect the opinion of the Skools Ferm Tim(BS) type guys the truth is that these guys can tear an engine down and put it back together before I have had my second cup of coffee and are on a different level than me. They can work on the Merc's constant electronics problems, flywheel magnets and bearings etc for the JohnnyRudes for the price of parts most of which they have secreted in every nook and cranny of their workshops.
I can do basic maintenance oil plugs occassional fuel pump water pump type thing but a man has to know his limitations. I know mine and I want the least amount of worry possible when I finally get out here and there to fish.
To me, especially in the two stroke realm and I believe the four stroke as well that means one thing. Yamaha

[Blue_Runner]

Can of worms says you? Georgia wigglers anybody?

Sorry, just trying to stir the pot like they do on other forums.:beer:

[spareparts]

one otehr thing if you find a counter motor, check the gear lube real good, odds are, its probably black, if its got metal on teh magnet, probably going to give trouble. Use that in you negociations on price. If you can get it cheap enough(or find one with a bad lower), you can put a new SEI lower unit on it(standard or counter, they will both fit), for around $900 shipped to your door.

[reelapeelin]

#4:hi:


I posted this earlier cause I think you can do better in the same price category...try to get at least 150 on it...there's a 150 OMC out there for you..be patient, it'll show up and it'll be SO worth it...:party:

[THEFERMANATOR]

Don't count out the 140 OMC, it is one STRONG 140HP. I know my 140 on my 19' BOWRIDER outran a guy in a 18 GLASSTREAM with a 175 EVINRUDE on the back, and to top it off I had 5 people in the boat to him being by himself. Needless to say he came over scratching his head looking at my boat when I pulled up on the bank wondering why my engine was so short.

[Destroyer]

Damn this is hard... Speaking for myself, I have a 1991 200hp Merc on my Cruisers, and a 1991 200hp Johnson on my V. With the exception of the heat censor problem on the Merc that I mentioned in a different post I've really never had any problem with either engine. Both are strong, reliable units. I've never had a Yamaha except as a motorcycle, so I really can't comment on them other then to say that everyone I know that has one swears they are the best thing since striped bass. My point being that IMHO there are good and bad in every brand of motor. If you don't abuse your motor and you make sure it's well maintained it should last you for a long, long time.

[reelapeelin]

Don't count out the 140 OMC, it is one STRONG 140HP. I know my 140 on my 19' BOWRIDER outran a guy in a 18 GLASSTREAM with a 175 EVINRUDE on the back, and to top it off I had 5 people in the boat to him being by himself. Needless to say he came over scratching his head looking at my boat when I pulled up on the bank wondering why my engine was so short.


Might you have been tinkering a might w/your 140?...LOL!!...I had a 140 on a 17' Thunderbird before the V-20...OK performance, but on best day wouldn' outrun a 175...w/him loaded and me light...

[THEFERMANATOR]

Might you have been tinkering a might w/your 140?...LOL!!...I had a 140 on a 17' Thunderbird before the V-20...OK performance, but on best day wouldn' outrun a 175...w/him loaded and me light...

Just a little:sly:, but they still run good stock. I ran a V-20 center console with one that would leap on plane and ran mid 30's if not close to 40 when you hammered it.

[Hammerhead]

#1 if it runs well, is reliable and will get you out on the water for the summer. Then just keep scouring the ads in case it breaks down on you. And go ahead and replace the impeller.

Ditto.

However,..I like the Yamaha s alot. The 90 I had was bulletproof even after being sunk twice.

[Destroyer]

Ditto.

However,..I like the Yamaha s alot. The 90 I had was bulletproof even after being sunk twice.

What?.... Sinking it once wasn't good enough?:you:


(just busting)....

[spareparts]

I'd vote for teh Rudes, which ever one was fresh water. Old Yamahas get real expensive real quick when you start replacing parts. Contrary to popular belief, they do berak down, figure double the price for any parts comparable to a Merc or Johnrude. Around here, we don't rebuild Yamaha lower units, we repalce them, it ususally takes big hammer, chisel, and torch to get one a part after its been in salt for a while. DOn't forget the trim systems(probably Yamahas weakest point), only recently has there been any aftermarket trim motors available for Yamahas, soem of the oem motors are staggering in price

[captainmike]

YAMAHA 150!!!!!!!

I've had 3 V-20s. First had a 115 johnson. Underpowered. Second had a 150 Yamaha, PERFECT match up. Current has a 200 Yamaha. Screams, but a tad overkill. I thought the 150 was the ideal match up. And hands down Yamahas have been the best engines I've ever had.

[Road King Cole]

Only because it says "everyone respond", I will throw in my worthless and opinionated response.

:hi:

I would throw a new impeller in #1 and be proud to have an American made motor on the back of my boat.

[bcraigan]

Ok, after much looking and consideration, I have put a deposit on a 1988 200 Evinrude. The catch is that when I called the guy about his motor it turned out he had a 1988 200 evinrude which is going on my 20dc, a 21' Sea Ox with a 1988 Johnson vro 200(needs a powerpack), and a 1988 175 parts motor. The Boat sits on an ez loader trailer that is in pretty good shape other than some hardware surface rust. I ended up taking the package deal. Now the dilemma is which boat to keep... I wonder if I can swing keeping both... lol

[macojoe]

I vote Sea Ox!! :love:

[bcraigan]

I have to say it is a very big nice boat... much wider than the other walk arounds I've been in.