Bracket

[msbhammer]

Not the type I'm looking for, but its posted at a great price. ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Steel-Outboard-Transom-Bracket_W0QQitemZ270093146285QQihZ017QQcategoryZ26 455QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[msbhammer]

Not the type I'm looking for, but its posted at a great price. ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Steel-Outboard-Transom-Bracket_W0QQitemZ270093146285QQihZ017QQcategoryZ26 455QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[macojoe]

A lot of the old Clamer's have this type of bracket on there boats. Cheap strong and that all they care about on these junk boats!

[macojoe]

A lot of the old Clamer's have this type of bracket on there boats. Cheap strong and that all they care about on these junk boats!

[Bygracealone]

Ouch MJ!!! ;D

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f334/bygracealone/Sea%20Drive%20Removal/100_1285.jpg

[Bygracealone]

Ouch MJ!!! ;D

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f334/bygracealone/Sea%20Drive%20Removal/100_1285.jpg

[msbhammer]

Figured it was like yours BGA. ;)

[msbhammer]

Figured it was like yours BGA. ;)

[Bygracealone]

Yep, just like mine, but white. I still don't know how it will perform, but the installation was fairly straightforward.

If you can get it for under $200, it may be worthwhile.

[Bygracealone]

Yep, just like mine, but white. I still don't know how it will perform, but the installation was fairly straightforward.

If you can get it for under $200, it may be worthwhile.

[macojoe]

OOp's!! Sorry BGA!! :-X :-[

But its ture, they have the crapest boats!! and this is a cheap way of doing it!
There is a guy that welds here he just takes 1 1/2 or 2 fence post and makes them, he sent one for power coat and its nice!!

If you don't need flotation this is the way to go!!

[macojoe]

OOp's!! Sorry BGA!! :-X :-[

But its ture, they have the crapest boats!! and this is a cheap way of doing it!
There is a guy that welds here he just takes 1 1/2 or 2 fence post and makes them, he sent one for power coat and its nice!!

If you don't need flotation this is the way to go!!

[Bygracealone]

No worries MJ, I was just messin' with ya...

We'll see whether or not I need flotation soon enough. Hopefully, I won't find out the hard way :P

[Bygracealone]

No worries MJ, I was just messin' with ya...

We'll see whether or not I need flotation soon enough. Hopefully, I won't find out the hard way :P

[randlemanboater]

BGA, there wasn't any flotation holding up the Seadrive monstrosity, I bet you will be fine.

[randlemanboater]

BGA, there wasn't any flotation holding up the Seadrive monstrosity, I bet you will be fine.

[msbhammer]

Your right Randleman, Should be alot lighter without that OMC outdrive.
Nothing to do here today, but wait for teh snow to hit us. :(

[msbhammer]

Your right Randleman, Should be alot lighter without that OMC outdrive.
Nothing to do here today, but wait for teh snow to hit us. :(

[phester]

this is just a hunch, but, the set-back on a bracket [ usually 26"-30"] may change any weight issues. True, the sea-drive is probably heavier, but it's right up against the transom.....new bracket is lighter but now two feet behind the transom......just thinking out loud here, BGA what is the set back on your bracket?, doesn't look to be 26"-30" ?? BTW, I almost bought a V w/ the same type of bracket and an older 200 Johnson. It did not have a trailer, and it was from N.C.[ Wilmington] 700-800 miles from N.Y., it was a brokered boat and after two conversations with the guy I didn't have a good feeling about him or the boat so I passed

[phester]

this is just a hunch, but, the set-back on a bracket [ usually 26"-30"] may change any weight issues. True, the sea-drive is probably heavier, but it's right up against the transom.....new bracket is lighter but now two feet behind the transom......just thinking out loud here, BGA what is the set back on your bracket?, doesn't look to be 26"-30" ?? BTW, I almost bought a V w/ the same type of bracket and an older 200 Johnson. It did not have a trailer, and it was from N.C.[ Wilmington] 700-800 miles from N.Y., it was a brokered boat and after two conversations with the guy I didn't have a good feeling about him or the boat so I passed

[msbhammer]

Wouldnt be surprised if it was the same scum bag broker who sold me mine. *>:(

[msbhammer]

Wouldnt be surprised if it was the same scum bag broker who sold me mine. *>:(

[randlemanboater]

Wouldnt be surprised if it was teh same scum bag broker who sold me mine. *>:(

Were his initials H H?

[randlemanboater]

Wouldnt be surprised if it was teh same scum bag broker who sold me mine. *>:(

Were his initials H H?

[msbhammer]

Nope. New Jersey Yatch sales. But he brokers alot of V-20's from all over the states. One of these guys who says, yes sir ree, its turn key, take the kids out every weekend, bogus title for the trailer, never transfered the boat title from the last owner. It was a real mess. Surprised I kept my cool. Really wanted to give him a whoopin. ;D

[msbhammer]

Nope. New Jersey Yatch sales. But he brokers alot of V-20's from all over the states. One of these guys who says, yes sir ree, its turn key, take the kids out every weekend, bogus title for the trailer, never transfered the boat title from the last owner. It was a real mess. Surprised I kept my cool. Really wanted to give him a whoopin. ;D

[phester]

Were his initials H H?
the guy I was dealing with at the time, his name was Mark something.....to many "i don't knows" , "guaranteed", "come take a look" and to many "positives".....which contradicted the "I don't knows".......the guy couldn't keep his story straight

[phester]

Were his initials H H?
the guy I was dealing with at the time, his name was Mark something.....to many "i don't knows" , "guaranteed", "come take a look" and to many "positives".....which contradicted the "I don't knows".......the guy couldn't keep his story straight

[randlemanboater]

Must be if you are too sleazy to sell used cars, you sell used boats.

[randlemanboater]

Must be if you are too sleazy to sell used cars, you sell used boats.

[Bygracealone]

this is just a hunch, but, the set-back on a bracket [ usually 26"-30"] may change any weight issues. True, the sea-drive is probably heavier, but it's right up against the transom.....new bracket is lighter but now two feet behind the transom......just thinking out loud here, BGA what is the set back on your bracket?, doesn't look to be 26"-30" ?? BTW, I almost bought a V w/ the same type of bracket and an older 200 Johnson. It did not have a trailer, and it was from N.C.[ Wilmington] 700-800 miles from N.Y., it was a brokered boat and after two conversations with the guy I didn't have a good feeling about him or the boat so I passed

Hi Phester, you're right. My bracket is just under 26" (closer to 25 1/2"). The weight of the engine is definitely comparable to the sea drive, so there will be a difference in the handling, just not sure to what degree. I think it'll be okay. Like I said, we'll see soon enough ;)

[Bygracealone]

this is just a hunch, but, the set-back on a bracket [ usually 26"-30"] may change any weight issues. True, the sea-drive is probably heavier, but it's right up against the transom.....new bracket is lighter but now two feet behind the transom......just thinking out loud here, BGA what is the set back on your bracket?, doesn't look to be 26"-30" ?? BTW, I almost bought a V w/ the same type of bracket and an older 200 Johnson. It did not have a trailer, and it was from N.C.[ Wilmington] 700-800 miles from N.Y., it was a brokered boat and after two conversations with the guy I didn't have a good feeling about him or the boat so I passed

Hi Phester, you're right. My bracket is just under 26" (closer to 25 1/2"). The weight of the engine is definitely comparable to the sea drive, so there will be a difference in the handling, just not sure to what degree. I think it'll be okay. Like I said, we'll see soon enough ;)

[phester]

a 200, on a bracket, on a V20.....hard to beat that combo 8) Good luck, when will you get the maiden voyage ?

[phester]

a 200, on a bracket, on a V20.....hard to beat that combo 8) Good luck, when will you get the maiden voyage ?

[Bygracealone]

Thanks Phes,

Lord willing, she'll be on the water in early Spring. You can be sure I'll post the details ;)

[Bygracealone]

Thanks Phes,

Lord willing, she'll be on the water in early Spring. You can be sure I'll post the details ;)

[msbhammer]

We want details and PICS. ;D ;D

[msbhammer]

We want details and PICS. ;D ;D

[Bygracealone]

Now there's a surprising comment ::) ;)

Will do Hammer, just because you asked ;D

[Bygracealone]

Now there's a surprising comment ::) ;)

Will do Hammer, just because you asked ;D

[TunaHead]

Willy or Kevin,
What is the setback on Old School's Armstrong bracket?

[TunaHead]

Willy or Kevin,
What is the setback on Old School's Armstrong bracket?

[macojoe]

Since I have done this and have used the boat for 4 years now, I can say this, at least in my experience.

After I converted the first thing I noticed is that it steers like a 23 footer now not a 20! Makes docking a little harder at first cause it, lets say, wheel base is now longer. There fore needing more room for your slow turns.

As for regular running it is better, it is quieter, you have more control on the tilt & trim, Just seems like it is smoother in general.

It just feels like a different boat!! the Bow comes up a bit more causing some slap in the slop. but with the added control of the trim I am able to get the bow down much better to cut them waves down.

Now mine was a I/O and I never did like the trimming on that leg? But you guys with a Seadrive may not notice anything? as far as trimming? because you are a outboard on bracket already?

Well any way I say the conversion in my case is about 75% better handling and performance then when it was I/O.

And with the 175 hp verses the 165 I/O I now can hit 40mph on a good day, curz low 30's
When it was a I/O straight 6 cyl, I toped out at 30mph and curz in the mid 20's

I never look back and 2nd guess weather I did the right thing!! Cause I know I did!!

[macojoe]

Since I have done this and have used the boat for 4 years now, I can say this, at least in my experience.

After I converted the first thing I noticed is that it steers like a 23 footer now not a 20! Makes docking a little harder at first cause it, lets say, wheel base is now longer. There fore needing more room for your slow turns.

As for regular running it is better, it is quieter, you have more control on the tilt & trim, Just seems like it is smoother in general.

It just feels like a different boat!! the Bow comes up a bit more causing some slap in the slop. but with the added control of the trim I am able to get the bow down much better to cut them waves down.

Now mine was a I/O and I never did like the trimming on that leg? But you guys with a Seadrive may not notice anything? as far as trimming? because you are a outboard on bracket already?

Well any way I say the conversion in my case is about 75% better handling and performance then when it was I/O.

And with the 175 hp verses the 165 I/O I now can hit 40mph on a good day, curz low 30's
When it was a I/O straight 6 cyl, I toped out at 30mph and curz in the mid 20's

I never look back and 2nd guess weather I did the right thing!! Cause I know I did!!

[Bygracealone]

MJ,

Thanks for the helpful overview. Having read what you've written, I can't wait to experience it myself :)

[Bygracealone]

MJ,

Thanks for the helpful overview. Having read what you've written, I can't wait to experience it myself :)