THANK YOU Spareparts!!

[reelapeelin]

Spareparts comes thru AGAIN!!...

The old '74 is gettin old and showing her age for sure these days...soft spots in the foredeck and cockpit that are only gonna get worse w/time...as I don't know SQUAT about working fiberglass, it wouldn't be worth payin' for all the extensive repairs needed just to keep her structurally sound w/minimal improvements appearance-wise. I ran all this by David some time ago and recently he found a diamond in the ROUGH...and I mean ROUGH! She's dirty and in need of LOTS of elbow grease, TLC and a few bucks, but here are a couple of pics of the new "REELAPEELIN"...remember, I said ROUGH

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/reelapeelin/95V21I21010.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/reelapeelin/95V21II21010.jpg

She's a '95 V-21 the previous owner started on, got tired of and abandoned several years back. Spare ran across it a while back and told me about it, then recently took some pics and his opinion of the condition of the hull (he don't hold back much)...he negotiated it down to a doable dollar figure and I went down yesterday and inked the deal.

I'll go back to Charleston and tow it home next week, in the meantime, the fun will begin dismantling the old RAP...Oh BOY!!...let the fun begin!!...:sun:

[bigshrimpin]

Nice work guys!! That's gonna be a sweet boat reel!

[Airslot]

Hot diggity dam DAWG...that is gonna be a Schweet new Reelapeelin'. Nice work on the deal. Can't wait to see the metamorphasis...

[RWilson2526]

Oh man...awsome!!! that blue hull is gonna be da bomb! is that gelcoat or paint?

[garagenc]

Nice looking "elbow grease" boat I agree the blue hull will look nice when cleaned up.

[rebel44]

...so whats wrong with the nice V20 center console right next to it?

[lumberslinger178]

Congrats reel , we all know what a little elbow grease will do.:beer: I cant wait to see the transformation, If I was closer I'd love to lend a hand or two..

[bcraigan]

Sent you a message about the motor on the v21. Might be interested if you want to sell it. Congrats again. Very sweet boat.

[spareparts]

he want to sell teh center console as well, ya'll give me a little time adn I'll see what I can get him down to on that one. I don't want to work him too hard all at once

[reelapeelin]

he want to sell teh center console as well, ya'll give me a little time adn I'll see what I can get him down to on that one. I don't want to work him too hard all at once


Thanks guys!!...I owe the DEAL to Mr Spareparts...he got it to a place I's willing to step up to...love the Midnight Blue sides...they were Awlgripped on some time ago...not PERFECT, but OK paint job...some buffing should help out the finish....guess i'll be investing in a buffer soon.
As Spare points out, the CC looks pretty good and is available...if he can sprinkle the same majic dust on that one that he did on the 21, somebody'll get it RIGHT...
I will check into the motor comin' off mine, but again, let David talk w/this guy about $$.
I'll post pics as she gets closer to SPLASH DAY...lots to do before then...wish I could spirit Slinger down here for EXPERT help...C'mon if ya can...we'll have some fun!!

[spareparts]

so what you goina call her? "Reel Blue" ?

[randlemanboater]

Awsome!!!!!!

How bout REELAPEELIN TOO.

[willy]

Good job my friend, she looks sweet. I know she is going to make a fine ReelApeelin II
Let me know when the splash happens, might have to grab the Puhbah and Spare and join you

[chumbucket]

Nice!!!!! :beer:

You gonna hang yer Honda on her?

[THEFERMANATOR]

You gonna hang yer Honda on her?

I was wondering that one myself. I thought your HONDA was a 20" shafted engine? I know the V-21 is a 25" shaft and due to the bracket would be hard to cut down.

[spareparts]

that one of the issues Reel had discused with me, Ferm, you got any ideas. The motor on teh boatis mounted fairly high from the pics. I wonder if you could shave an inch or 2 off the built in bracket nad mount teh motor all the way down. Least expensive option would be a jack plate set all the way down, mounting the engine further back to take up for the height. Anyone know of an extension kit for a Honda 150?

[reelapeelin]

Yeah, I'll use the Honda some way or t'other...but I really don't wanna cut this transom cuz eventually there'll be a 25" shaft on it...I'll try Spare's idea of a 6" set-back bracket and see if that'll get me thru til a 25" shaft shows up for it...so at this point, I am lookin' for such a bracket...haven't started search yet, so if anybody's got one in their pocket they're lookin' to part with, gimme a holler!!

Willy...hell yeah get yer @$$ down here for the SPLASH!!...although at present I have no idea of when that'll be...plan A is not to be inna hurry, although I should have her belly wet by late June for a trip to Sunset Beach we have scheduled.
Snow here overnite, but good weather all week ahead, so gonna start tearin' down the '74 and storin' the parts til the 21's ready for 'em...

If nobody wants the complete '74 hull, there will be some goodies parted out including windshield and forward sliding hatch and rails...the twin 40 gal fuel tanks and seat boxes have worked well since 1999 when originally installed...they'll be available as well...see my Gallery for pics of those...anyway, more to come as things progress...as always it's GREAT to have everyone's support and backup for a project like this...no doubt I feel the greatest team on the planet is looking over my shoulder on this...gonna be some-mo FUN!!...:party:

[Blue_Runner]

Oh man that is flippin sweet. Nice job SPARE and REEL. I can see the potential already!

Never know that awlgrip might clean right up with some soapy water. I know mine does.

I hear ya DAWG!!! Let me know if you need anything like pics of hatch lids or the splashwell guard, etc. Its gonna be cool!
:party::nice:

[nymack66]

Its a beauty for sure good luck and congratulations keep us posted.

[RABBITFISH]

The way you guys work together is awsome! I too would love to see pics of the work in progress, perhaps even get some more ideas!
That Spareparts fellow is one great guy isn't he!
Always ready to help out anybody, even us exiles from the south!!!
:sand:

[reelapeelin]

The way you guys work together is awsome! I too would love to see pics of the work in progress, perhaps even get some more ideas!
That Spareparts fellow is one great guy isn't he!
Always ready to help out anybody, even us exiles from the south!!!
:sand:

No doubt Spare has become one of a few GO-TO-GUYS on the board!!...he, Skools and Ferm are probably the BIG 3 when it comes to great technical info...these guys are great...but IMHO, the collective knowledge and everybody's willingness to jump in and help thru issues, projects, parts and wide ranging opinions and been-there-done-that advice make V-20.com a REAL treasure for those of us who love and work on our V-20s & 21s!!...

...and we like pictures, too!!...

[macojoe]

I like the blue hull!! Nice work guy's!!

Have you looked into a extension kit for making your motor a 25"?? From what I have seen on most kits, its just a spacer and a longer rod and water tubes, If they make one for your motor that might be the way to go?

Good Luck!

[spareparts]

the shift rod is going to be the stickler on the extension kit, I gotta do soem research. Ferm, Skools, what kind of ideas ya'll got

[Skools Out]

not sure but can't you use 2 pieces of stainless channel to make a drop down part to lower the motor.

here's a 25" that may fit the motor not sure if the honda 130 and 150 gear case is a like.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-OUTBOARD-LOWER-UNIT-BF130-25-SHAFT-LENGTH_W0QQitemZ150412227238QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBoa t_Parts_Accessories_Gear?hash=item23054472a6

http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!Blc21kgBmk~$(KGrHqIOKjwEtEPqd5-hBLbv4zp7,w~~_35.JPG

[randlemanboater]

Before I found my V w/ the 20" transom, my plan was to use the jackplate method. I think that as long as you are carefull not to tilt it up too far it will work.

Of course the ideal setup would be a hydraulic jack plate so you could raise it before tilting up, allowing for FULL TILT.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Have you called BAY to see if they make one that might work? I don't see one on there site, but they may be able to build one for you.

http://www.baymfg.com/index.asp

[reelapeelin]

This is great Guys!!...dis wat I talkin bout...

Skools, the 130 preceeded the 135 & 150 and as far as I know aren't compatable...sure LOOKS the same, though...I'll ask my dealer buddy Mon...

And Ferm!!!...man I'll definately track down BAY...looks innerestin!!...

Or if I can locate an extension like MJ's talkin bout...then hey!!...I'm ridin inna BOAT!!...:sun:

[macojoe]

I have done a quick look and it seems the kits are all over the place for merc, rudes, johnson, yamaha but nothing for Honda??
I am sure there is a way, maybe your dealer can tell you how?

Good Luck

[Skools Out]

you can always go this route

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFFORDABLE-OUTBOARD-MOTOR-TRANSOM-BRACKET-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53dcec5407QQitemZ36 0188761095QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AFFORDABLE-OUTBOARD-MOTOR-TRANSOM-BRACKET-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53dcec5407QQitemZ36 0188761095QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear)

http://i13.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/26/a0/4562_12.JPG

[reelapeelin]

I have done a quick look and it seems the kits are all over the place for merc, rudes, johnson, yamaha but nothing for Honda??
I am sure there is a way, maybe your dealer can tell you how?

Good Luck


MJ!!...you just turned the light ON!!

Not only MY DEALER...but a DEALER SEARCH!!...somewhere there's a dealer w/a blown powerhead on a 135 or 150...I got a meeting Mon morning, but after that, I'll be in touch w/Holdens an see how best to contact LOTS of Honda dealers to find this thing!...

Thanks MJ!!...I feel better already...:sun:

Randleman...I've thought about a hydraulic jack...agreed, that would probably work pretty good...how much one of those things can be had for these days?...

[macojoe]

yes but you will need the whole mid section and lower unit, remove your power head and install on the other one. A lot of work, be easier to find a extension kit, but hey if you are willing there is a way.

[phatdaddy]

sell current V-20 rig as is and put money towards new power for V-21?

[reelapeelin]

yes but you will need the whole mid section and lower unit, remove your power head and install on the other one. A lot of work, be easier to find a extension kit, but hey if you are willing there is a way.

So I gotta replace the mid-section AND the lower unit?...wouldn't a replacement bolt up to my existing lower?...

Phat, I have considered tradin in the Honda for a new 200 Etec...but then I snap back to the reality of jumpin under a monthly payment again...naaa...

[phatdaddy]

Yeah i can totally relate to that, plus you really know your motor, so i understand. You would have to replace the lower unit because the drive shaft is too short. on the extension kits, you get longer studs for your foot, a spacer for your mid-section, & an extension for your drive shaft. MJ's suggestion bout finding a blown 130/150 and putting your powerhead on might bet the path of least resistance..

[macojoe]

Tye extra 5" that you need for the longer lower unit is in the mid section, the longer shaft goes in and you are all set. The extencion kit will have a 5" spacer that matches the motor to fix this.

If you get a 25" lower unit you will have the shaft and stuff but still will be short in the mid section, and this is why you will need the whole motor and replace with your power head.

[reelapeelin]

Tye extra 5" that you need for the longer lower unit is in the mid section, the longer shaft goes in and you are all set. The extencion kit will have a 5" spacer that matches the motor to fix this.

If you get a 25" lower unit you will have the shaft and stuff but still will be short in the mid section, and this is why you will need the whole motor and replace with your power head.


OK..now I see what yer sayin...

[cfelton]

Reel, you and Spare made a really good find there! It looks like its gonna be a sweet ride . I wish I were a little closer, Id be more than glad ta give you a hand with it. I love seeing a dream come to reality! Good Luck!!

[reelapeelin]

Reel, you and Spare made a really good find there! It looks like its gonna be a sweet ride . I wish I were a little closer, Id be more than glad ta give you a hand with it. I love seeing a dream come to reality! Good Luck!!


Thanks cfelton!!...if you like seeing a dream come true,the pic below was my 1st V-20 dreamboat :love:...gonna be hard parting w/the old girl, but the time has come...

[cfelton]

Reel, I know how you feel. I couldn't imagine selling my V after all the time I've spent rebuilding it and all the fun I've had with it. But it looks like you've made a good move. You got yourself a 21 year newer boat and you can dress it out any way you want. Have fun!!

[randlemanboater]

On ebay right now hydraulic jack plates range from $439 to over a grand. Cheeper than making yours a 25" motor I bet, but making yours a 25" will be better.

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=hydraulic+jack+plate&_sacat=See-All-Categories

[reelapeelin]

On ebay right now hydraulic jack plates range from $439 to over a grand. Cheeper than making yours a 25" motor I bet, but making yours a 25" will be better.

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=hydraulic+jack+plate&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Thanks RB...weighin al the options and thats a good possibility..

[spareparts]

hang your motor on it like it sits and see how far down you need to go. If I'm not mistaken, the motor on that boat is raised up in one of the higher sets of holes, You will never know untill you set it on the back and see how high it is. Any one with a V21 rigged? What set of holes do you have the motor in?

[Blue_Runner]

I don't know what set of holes but best I remember its as low as it will go. I'll check it out and report back.

[phatdaddy]

http://panamacity.craigslist.org/boa/1603239813.html

let me know if your interested in this set-up...

[reelapeelin]

http://panamacity.craigslist.org/boa/1603239813.html

let me know if your interested in this set-up...


Yes, I am interested...but important to know the set-back (6" hopefully) before I buy...either way, thanks for finding...

[phatdaddy]

reel, i called the guy on craig's list about the bracket, i'm not sure what "set-back" is but this one travels up and down 4 inches and distance off of the transom 5 inches. he said it is made out of aluminum. in the picture it appears to be a "homemade" bracket out of al angle. this is a local outboard shop not far from my house, if you think your interested, i can go out and eyeball it. if you want it, i will buy it and ship and you can send me a check for 75 + shipping..

[Seacrets]

Not to throw fecal matter in the punch bowl, but why not sell the Reel w/ Honda, sell the Johnson and buy a 25" motor for the new boat. Doesn't have to be new. In 2006 I installed a year 2001, 150 Merc on my V for $4200. The motor had 125 hrs on it with 135 psi compression on all cylinders. I bet you can find something with less hrs on it than your current Honda. This is just another option.
You're reengineering a boat that already has a small setback with an additional setback. You'll know if it was a good move the first time you backdown and the cowling isn't underwater. You may have to replace most cabling. The original setback, plus an additional setback and lowering the motor 5" may change the whole attitude of the boat. Good luck on your venture. The new one looks great. You're going to have a blast with your project. Wish I was closer so I could help.

[reelapeelin]

reel, i called the guy on craig's list about the bracket, i'm not sure what "set-back" is but this one travels up and down 4 inches and distance off of the transom 5 inches. he said it is made out of aluminum. in the picture it appears to be a "homemade" bracket out of al angle. this is a local outboard shop not far from my house, if you think your interested, i can go out and eyeball it. if you want it, i will buy it and ship and you can send me a check for 75 + shipping..

The set-back is the 5" distance off the transom you mention...I'm interested, but even at that price would like to check who made it...if it is homemade, no interest...one thing curious, if he's an outboatd shop, he'll need a bracket like that sooner or later, so why's he sellin it??...
If you want, I'll call him from here for more questions...then if I wanna get it, I'll take you up on buy and ship at my expense...lemme know...


Hey Seacrets...I hear ya on the points you make...well taken...my FIRST plan is to find a mid section and lower unit for my existing motor and forego the bracket...matter of fact I just got off phone w/dealer I got the Honda from...he is optimistic re finding what I'll need to make a 25 outta my 20...so we'll see how that goes...a bracket may have to serve temporarily till I find a long mid & lower...just tryin to cover all the options...how's things in Stienhatch??

[Seacrets]

Cold and windy today. It's been in the low to mid twenties at night for the last 2 1/2 weeks. Today, it's warmed up to 46 with 20 kt winds. Nice day to stay in the house. Come on down and visit in the spring. We'll wet a line.

[phatdaddy]

if you want to give him a call and hash out the details, that would be best. i think its a local shop because of another listing he has for a kicker bracket and you can see the background. i can go out and take some pics and eyeball it if need be.

you are right, i would do this as a second option and the only way i would do it, it would not require any additional holes in the transom................let me know

[reelapeelin]

if you want to give him a call and hash out the details, that would be best. i think its a local shop because of another listing he has for a kicker bracket and you can see the background. i can go out and take some pics and eyeball it if need be.

you are right, i would do this as a second option and the only way i would do it, it would not require any additional holes in the transom................let me know


Thanks for finding it...lemme give him a call...I'll let you know here...

[macojoe]

http://providence.craigslist.org/boa/1605549249.html

[reelapeelin]

http://providence.craigslist.org/boa/1605549249.html


Musta been a goodun!!!...already been deleted by author...apparently sold QUICK!!...what the heck was it, MJ??...

[macojoe]

its still there???

2003 Honda 225 - 4 stroke (700hrs) - $5000 (Kingston)

Date: 2010-02-17, 5:25PM EST
Reply to: [email protected] ([email protected]?subject=2003%20Honda%202 25%20-%204%20stroke%20%28700hrs%29%20-%20%245000%20%28Kingston%29&body=%0A%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fprovidence.craigslist.org% 2Fboa%2F1605549249.html%0A) [Errors when replying to ads? (http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts)]

Honda 225 four stroke with 25" leg. Motor runs very well. Very good condition. Currently on 25' Boat. Available for test run.
Call for more info 401-477-2500.

[RWilson2526]

gone for me as well.....it might have been in your cache MJ....that happened to me once or twice.

[reelapeelin]

Thanks, MJ...just tried that link w/same result from here...

Appreciate the find, but that 225 is HEAVY mofo...I think I'll continue search for 150 conversion...:sun:

[shicks007]

Dang RAP!.....Nice. I haven't been around for awhile to see your god news. Very nice. That blue hull looks amazing. You gona swap your trolling motor over to the new rig. I still havent put one on mine. Keep us informed with your progress.

[reelapeelin]

Dang RAP!.....Nice. I haven't been around for awhile to see your god news. Very nice. That blue hull looks amazing. You gona swap your trolling motor over to the new rig. I still havent put one on mine. Keep us informed with your progress.


Hey Shicks!...long time no see...hope ya got time to stick around a while....Yeah I'm in Charleston this morning gettin coffeed-up before goin to hitch the 21 up and tow back to Sparkle City...LOTTA work ahead, but for the most part it'll be the fun stuff...can't wait to get started...

Glad ya dropped by, Shicks!!...:time:

[bradford]

Hey Reel, will this stuff work for ya?

From Craigslist Savannah,

I have alot of good parts for a Honda 90 and 130 hp outboard.I have all the electronics off the motor,tilt and trim system,lower unit (25 in) with adapter housing.hood and pan,all for $1000.00.One of the major parts would sell for that.All is in great shape.Call Frank at 912-7864032


Location: Tybee Island
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

[reelapeelin]

Hey Reel, will this stuff work for ya?

From Craigslist Savannah,

I have alot of good parts for a Honda 90 and 130 hp outboard.I have all the electronics off the motor,tilt and trim system,lower unit (25 in) with adapter housing.hood and pan,all for $1000.00.One of the major parts would sell for that.All is in great shape.Call Frank at 912-7864032


Location: Tybee Island
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests




Hey thanks for tryin'!!...the 90 & 130 preceeded the 135 & 150 and are different models altogether...CLOSE!!...

[spareparts]

I talked to Chris yesterday and we were trying to remeber how high that John rude was up on the transom, I know teh pics I took showed the bracket that goes over teh top of the transom was at least an inch or two up. Look at teh old marks and try to figure out how high teh old motor was, figure if teh old one was a coule inches up, then trim the transom down an inch or two, you could be at the right height

[reelapeelin]

I talked to Chris yesterday and we were trying to remeber how high that John rude was up on the transom, I know teh pics I took showed the bracket that goes over teh top of the transom was at least an inch or two up. Look at teh old marks and try to figure out how high teh old motor was, figure if teh old one was a coule inches up, then trim the transom down an inch or two, you could be at the right height

I've got the dealer lookin for what we need to stretch the Honda...he's spreadin the word thru the Honda Regional Tech, but I sure need you guys to keep a lookout too...no tellin' where this stuff's gonna pop up...if I can't find it by splash-time, I'll go w/a 6" set-back jack-plate like you suggested earlier, til the real deal comes along...don't wanna cut this transom...

I'll post some pics soon...she's cleaned up pretty good from last time you saw her, Spare...