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Road King Cole
11-20-2009, 01:47 PM
Is it common to “drive your boat” up the trailer? I can see driving it at a slow pace to get it mostly on the trailer or at least lined up properly and then winch it the last few feet, but give it hard throttle to “drive it up?”

Here’s my story;

Being single-handed most of the time with boat, I tie the boat at the dock, go get the truck and put the trailer in the water and then re-position the boat to be near thetrailer. I then pull out the winch cable, connect it to the boat, untie the boat from the dock, move the boat onto the trailer as much as I can, got to the winch and then winch it up. It’s been working great.

What happened yesterday was that a guy had his buddy drive his trailer to the water and then he drove his boat up the trailer. To do this he had to give the engine allot of throttle which then produced a good current which pulled by boat off its tracks just after I was getting back to the winch. I wasn’t able to just pull it back onto track as he kept high throttle for a long time even after his buddy secured the boat. Had my rubber boots on and I walked the beam of the trailer so I could reposition the boat. On the way back to the winch he had finally cut his engine and says to me; “Dude, did you just get that boat?” “Dude, you know you can just drive it up?”

I let him know that I was fine until he produced such a current. Perhaps I wouldn’t have been a little perturbed if:

My boots are “lets say” 18 inches high, when “walking the beam” back to the truck holding the cable, I stepped off where it was “lets say” 18.5 inches deep. The water didn’t look that deep.

I know there is a fine for power reversing off the trailer, I should think the same rule and reason should apply here.

Or, pardon the expression, Am I all wet?

reelapeelin
11-20-2009, 02:50 PM
Cole, it all depends on where you are...varies from state to state...and what kind of trailer (roller or bunks) and then throw in some personal preference.
Down here, we run 'em all the way up on the trailer, hitch it and pull straight to a rigging area...on a weekend at any popular ramp, if you dally around like you are talking about, you become unpopular QUICK...No fine for power-on/off...and I've always powered up/down in FL as well...

That's down here...

Up there, after being a member of this forum, I've come to realize the laws are different and probably w/good reason...sounds like shallower ramps up there as many prefer rollers to bunks..your new friend (ha-ha) at the ramp probably didn't intend to mess you up, but sounds like a bit of an @$$ anyway (I generally wanna smack people who refer to others they don't know as Dude)...check on the local laws re ramp loading...it sure is easier/quicker to power load if you can.

Road King Cole
11-20-2009, 03:43 PM
There is a sign that says $100 fine for powering off...

I know it sounds like allot of steps, but I don't dilly dally...even though there was no one else there...

I am not sure if getting back on and off the boat to power on would actually be any quicker. Perhaps I could give that a try next time.

So it would be:

Pull up and tie off at the dock.

Get the truck, put trailer in water.

get back in boat, start engine, untie and drive boat on trailer.

(leave engine in gear so boat doesn't slide back)

Climb to front, lean over and secure chain\winch cable to bow eye bolt.

Go back and turn off engine.

Climb down in front of boat onto trailer (I'm a little worried about this step).

Get in truck and pull out.

If there are any tricks to make it quicker, I'm all ears...

I'm with ya on the "Dude thing".

rkc

reelapeelin
11-20-2009, 05:52 PM
Sorry...was using the dally thing in comparison to what goes on down here...all the striper tournaments I've loaded/unloaded for, those guys dunk 'em and chunk 'em cause there might be a hundred boats tryin' to get in before blast-off(one reason I quit tourneys)...I hear ya on the over-the-bow-thing...at 57 goin' over mine would be tricky if I hadn't intentionally set it up for that long ago...and doing it alone adds to the trick...my spare-tire is my step-down off the front of the bow...if my buddy's in the truck, I hitch it up, give him the OK and we're off...if no buddy, then it's another trip...you'll work it out...just remember...PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE...and of course fish each time you practice...:party:

garagenc
11-20-2009, 08:57 PM
I do exactly what you described in youre last post Cole, power on and off, I also have to climb over the bow if I didn't get the trailer close to the finger pier.

Alot of ramps around here in NC and VA at low tide if you have bunks you have to power it off and that also keeps the launch area dredged out.

I have bunks and I always drive on, Tip: I put a bolt on my winch and installed a small diameter garden hose on it so it is vertical and that lets me line my bow up perfectly each time I load.

phatdaddy
11-20-2009, 10:58 PM
agree with all of the above, local customs prevail. one thing i do when alone is make sure i back trailer close enough to finger pier, i can step off foredeck to finger pier. i have a bunk trailer and power up. when launching, i dip it until it floats off....
also, common sense would tell me not to make a lot of "wake" next to someone trying to load or unload. but common sense at a boat ramp is a rare find...

nipper
11-21-2009, 08:13 AM
I power up most of the way, but not with much throttle at all. Just enough power to get it centered on the bunks. I am always afraid to power it up hard and have the bow smash into the winch/winch stand. I then get up on the deck and step from the deck down to the spare tire and from there down to the tongue of the trailer. I hitch her up and crank it up the last foot or two. I always pull out 2-3 feet of the winch line before backing the trailer into the water so I can just clip on the winch cable and crank her up. I have to knock on wood here, but I have never had to go in the water (unless it is warm and I want to). I can step from the trailer tongue to the bumper of my suburban, then swing around to the rear driver side tire (while holding on to the luggage rack) and then down from the tire to the ramp.

Depending on the ramp, people powering up hard can really cause problems by creating big holes in the bottom beyond where the ramp ends. I have seen people back in too far and drop a trailer wheel in the hole causing difficulties with getting the trailer back out.

Hey, this is my 1000th post! Am I now among the "God" ranks?

nipper
11-21-2009, 08:15 AM
Yep, just checked my last post and I am now listed as a "God". Nice to be among such good company. I have enhoyed every minute on this site over the past several years. Y'all are a very fine bunch of folks.

willy
11-21-2009, 08:44 AM
congrats Lord Nipper:clap:

CaptJ
11-21-2009, 03:58 PM
All depends on the ramp and the type of trailer you have. I could pull my V up on the rollers no problem. Now with the bunker trailer and the new ramp I am using at the town docks I have to power her up to the winch. I am not crazy about doing it but how else you going to get her up on a shallow ramp with a bunk trailer?
I always try to be aware of who is around me and be curtious at all times.

CaptJ
11-21-2009, 03:59 PM
I am

CaptJ
11-21-2009, 03:59 PM
never going

CaptJ
11-21-2009, 04:00 PM
to get to God status.

CaptJ
11-21-2009, 04:01 PM
Congrats Nipper:happy:

Skools Out
11-22-2009, 01:16 PM
same here at my ramps in NC i power on and off with all my boats even with both types of trailers roller and bunk heck i've had to throttle up at times to puch the truck up and out the ramp

spareparts
11-22-2009, 04:13 PM
I have allways powered up the trailer, could never understand why people winch it all teh way up when they can drive it up. Saves a lot of time, gets the ramped cleared faster so teh next person can use it. Biggest thing I've powered up the ramp was a 40 Sea Ray Sundancer, held teh power on till we got it starpped in place. If nothing else, you're keeping the ramp blown out

reelapeelin
11-23-2009, 07:17 AM
to get to God status.


Yer already almost 2/3s of the way there...at you rate, you'll be there in no time...then you'll get to enjoy all the privileges we Gods take for granted...free gas, free cold beer 24/7...lots of unbridled sex w/beautiful women...and then RAP awoke from his dream...:hide:

Stillrunning
11-23-2009, 05:51 PM
So from your post I assume you either fish alone or either the wife or friends do not know how to help. The best thing I ever did was to teach the wife how to back up the trailer and she is better then most guys. I back down she get into truck I hop into boat get it started and she backs up an taps the breaks so I slide off. When we return she goes and gets the truck and backs it down until I tell her to stop. She gets out and points either way to help line me up on the trailer. I found if you nose it in some then allow the rollers to line it up some before hitting the gas. I slowly give it the gas as my wife points either way then when I get close she holds her hands apart showing how much further I need to go. When I hit the stop she throws on the hook and I jump down and give it a crank or 2 and off we go.

nipper
11-23-2009, 05:59 PM
Still, you must be a patient man. I have tried that but the Wife never got the hang of it. Heck, who am I kidding, she could not stand my bi---ing at her! I have always thought that a slick husband and wife launching/retrieving team is very cool!

RidgeRunner
11-23-2009, 07:42 PM
Still, you must be a patient man. I have tried that but the Wife never got the hang of it. Heck, who am I kidding, she could not stand my bi---ing at her! I have always thought that a slick husband and wife launching/retrieving team is very cool!

I too am jelous of a husband wife launching/retrieving team. Some places in Florida now have signs prohibiting "Power Loading". I try to leave just enough trailer (bunk type)in the water that once the keel of the boat hits the keel roller the back of the boat is resting on the bunks. It does not take much power from there to get the bow eye to the winch stand. I then chop the power and trim the motor the boat rests there giving me time to climb over the bow and hook her up. I have done it two or three times with success. Two or three times I missed the mark and had to either climb out of the boat and reposition the truck or get out and winch.
What I find to be a complete PITA is that my aluminum tandem axle trailer has enough bouyancy that it floats. The floating trailer makes it real hard to tell how deep you are going and the current can also play hell. I think I can remedy the float with some PVC pipe and Lead.

randlemanboater
11-23-2009, 07:43 PM
Power on 4 me too, but if I get the trailer at just the right depth, it doesn't take much to get there.

Then I jump to the dock or climb down the tire like the other guys.

My wife is very good at backing straight for about 20 feet, so I get it lined up and it works great when she is there.

Road King Cole
11-24-2009, 09:14 AM
Yes, lately it has been just me and my dog. The dog loves fishing, where the wife gets bored and doesn't want to stay out long. The first time the wife said "why don't you just go out without me", I was jumping for joy inside and said "well...OK".

I fish alone, yea, with nobody else.

However, next spring and summer I will bring friends at times and will also have to bring relatives.

I should probably teach the wife how to back the trailer down...

RidgeRunner
11-24-2009, 10:21 AM
I fish alone,yea, with nobody else.
You know when I fish alone, I just wanna be by myself.

The beginnings of a good George Thorogood Spoof.

Trust me, keep that poker face on. Never lead on that you may have more fun fishing than you would have with the wife or child. It would give her more leverage, as if the women needed more leverage...
During the holiday weekend I plan to go on one of those marathon see you tomorrow blood and guts kind of trips, alone if need be. The girls just don't have any desire to fish that hard so they will end up at the mall for black Friday..One of life's simple pleasures:sun:

RABBITFISH
11-26-2009, 12:52 PM
How about a mall at the end of a boat dock, take wife out fishing, drop her at boat dock mall, pick her up when finished fishing?
Maybe the fishing trip would cost more than planned?

Anyway, love to just go riding, pull up to dock at restaurant, store, shop, etc, and just have fun..

Any help at dock is good, sometimes I run it up sometimes not, depending on the circumstances at the time..