What do yall think about this?

[JeffXJ]

Looks like I'm going to scrap my project after all and just bite the bullet on a V I can splash and go with. I found this today and I'm going to take a look at her tomorrow http://www.millermarineboatsales.com/moredetails.html?88274496&sitecode=millermarineboa tsales

http://images.traderonline.com/img/6/dealer/4441150/88274496_1.jpg

If all works out I may have a bunch of stuff off the old V as well as the stuff I built to take the old V apart with to get rid of.

[Mulv80]

Nice boat Jeff, but for $11,300 better be close to perfect.

[Airslot]

If she's sound and solid, make em an offer. I bet you can get her for 10K? You'd also achieve instant D A W G status by picking up a '21, right REEL ;D

[msbhammer]

Damm, another V-21. She looks sweet. If you ca afford her, grab her. You can sell the parts of your old V here. Windshield and hatch at least. ;)
Dont disapear on us Jeff. let us know what you decide to do. ;)

[charlie_the_tuna]

nice.

[Blue_Runner]

She looks good Jeff! Offer up low....8 - 9 k and go from there ;)

[Kajun]

nice V!!..but definetly dont pay his full price that guy will go down on price...i've talked to him a few times...most of his boats are consignment or if not he got them cheap...

[C YENSEN]

Im jealous...... :'(

[JeffXJ]

nice V!!..but definetly dont pay his full price that guy will go down on price...i've talked to him a few times...most of his boats are consignment or if not he got them cheap...

Thanks for the advise Kajun. I was planning on offering 9 provided the boat checks out ok, but I think I'll start a little lower. Do you think he might be willing to sell the boat without the trailer? I still have my nice and shiney tandom axle trailer and don't want the single axle trailer it comes with.

[reelapeelin]

If she's sound and solid, make em an offer. I bet you can get her for 10K? You'd also achieve instant D A W G status by picking up a '21, right REEL ;D



We in the trade call it "Insty-DAWG" ;) ...and yup, he gets it soon as he writes the check...lotta good advice above...I think yer in the ballpark at 9, but like BR says, start at 8, but whatever he agrees to, be sure it's contingent on a good Marine Tech (OMC is best) goin' over that motor and OKin' all...compression test, lower-unit, etc, etc...good luck and keep us posted...that looks like a NICE boat, but don't "fall in love " w/it til AFTER ya buy it ;) ...


...and won't yer other "V" sell quicker w/that trailer under it ;) ...

[Mulv80]

Dealer would probably be interested in selling the boat minus the trailer. Decent used trailers are hard to come and most dealers have no trouble finding a home for them. Reels right though, wouldnt your V sell quicker with a trailer. Even if your V is beyond repair, sit it on the trailer and make it a condition of the sale that whoever buys the trailer must take the boat. That way you won't have to pay to get rid of it.

[Airslot]

So Jeff, whats the dealio? You a new D A W G ? Maybe he's out riding his new V, stylin' and profilin' ;D

[JeffXJ]

It was a heartbreaker *:-[ The boat looks pretty (minus a few cosmitics), but once I climbed it was obvious the floor was done. The first sign of trouble was when I saw someone had cut a section of the deck out behind the fuel tank that was about three feet wide and two feet long. The reason I noticed it so quick was whoever did it didn't glass it back in. There may have been an attempt to caulk around the cut, but most of that is gone. Just about the entire back half of the cockpit is soft. The front half felt solid, but when I bounced in it I felt like the deck wasn't attached to the stringer because I could feel the floor hitting something. All in all it's a real shame. It might be good for someone who wants to replace an entire deck, but that's not me. The owner must be on crack if he thinks someone will give him anything close to 11,300 in the shape it's in. *The story isn't quite over though. I guess the guy who runs the place was out when I stopped by so I left my number (with my comments on the boat) with the lady who was working the desk. We'll see if I get a call... To be continued....

[reelapeelin]

WOW!! ... yer right ... brass kahunas to ask top $$ for boat in that condition ::) ... maybe they'll call ya back and pay you to come get it ;) ...

[Airslot]

Man, that is a shame. When it's meant to be, it'll work out.

[C YENSEN]

sorry to hear the Jeff

[Bygracealone]

Jeff, I'm also sorry that didn't work out for you.

Hey, offer him $6-7k and pay somebody to replace the deck.

[willy]

Jeff any other signs of a sinking, full or partial? Wires corroded etc.
Trying to think what else would have caused a newer V to need the floor cut out and obviously some work done under it. We got boats from the 70's here with solid floors ???

[Gator_Bait]

Wish I saw this earlier I could have saved you the trip Jeff ;)

I looked at this one too, just before going to look at the 21 we bought. The floor is unbelievable in that thing...and for $11,000!!!??? :o :o

Not sure where all that softness came from. The 21 we bought does have a small softness in the rear of the deck, but after seeing that one at Miller's it made me feel a lot better. I think mine is an easy fix, whereas that one definitely needs major deck removal.

But even on mine I can't figure out where moisture exactly went in, I am resealing all deck plates, floor drains, and the brackets that hold the rear bench seat in. But Willy is right...there are 30 year old boats with solid floors, why mid 90's are so soft is a mystery.

Good luck in your search!

;D ;D

[Blue_Runner]

I don't have any softness in my 11 year old deck. I hope it stays that way!

Pretty wild man. I don't know that I trust that seller after reading his ad with no mention of a soft floor. Try to buy that enclosure off him and run run run away as fast as you can!

[msbhammer]

SHould have snap a few pics of the bad floor. :'(

[Stillrunning]

Keep looking. I think you have made the right choice not to try and repair the hull. It would have been a tough job.

[Stillrunning]

I just pulled up those pics and are you sure that its not an access hatch to storage. I have a storage compartment is in the same place. Maybe some kind of tank was installed there like a wash down and only the cover needs repair.

I looked at it some more and it to me it appears that the fiberglass wraps around the edge of the cut out which would support the idea that its a cover. Its a clean boat to have floor issues. Was that the only spot?

[JeffXJ]

The cutout area was the only SOLID spot. EVERYWHERE else is soft. There was also water standing in the rear compartment where the oiltank is. I haven't heard from Miller today so I guess they are just looking for someone who thinks nothing of a soft deck.

BTW, I don't think there is any storage under the floor on these simply because of the 60 gallon fuel tank. The poor repair I saw might have been an attempt to fix the worse of the softness. Gaitor, was the cutout I mentioned earlier there when you looked at it? Also, how long ago did you see it? I'm just curious how long the boat has been sitting around.

[Blue_Runner]

I would think either that boat was a sinker or someone let it fill up with water for a couple of years on the trailer for the whole floor to be solf :-/

I've seen a few V21's here and there and never have I seen a rectangle or square hatch in the rear deck. A round inspection plate seems to be the default, yes. Now there is some wasted space in that area between the fuel tank and inspection plate. I would never do it, but a fellow could make the area accessible with a deck hatch. I don't want to introduce any more opportunities for water.

[Gator_Bait]

Jeff I looked at it in early March, and it had just gotten to Miller then I think.

And that hatch definitely is not supposed to be there! It was what you said, a poor attempt to repair the worst I think.