New Man Cave

[macojoe]

Well I have wanted to build since last year and I am now in motion!!

A couple of weeks ago my son and I dug a 100' x 4' deep hole in the yard by hand!! :bat: This runs the water and power under ground to the shed.
4' is necessary to keep the water from freezing here in the NE.

we then built the floor with some help of friends, wow was that a bit ch getting level and square!!!

Then the last 2 days to get all framed, now if I just can figure out the roof?? I want to make it a Gambrel so I have a 2nd floor :love: when I am done this thing will be same sq feet as my house!! CB says its to big, I say the bigger the better!

Here are some pic's

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Son, uncles girl friend and uncle on ladder

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Has a 36" door on the right, and a 6' door on the front with two windows I am going to add another window on the 36" door side then a few on 2nd floor.

[turbinedoctor]

MJ it looks really nice but there are two things I would like to point out,

1) a straight trench uses less pipe and cable.

2) How come we only see others doing the work?

Good luck on your project. :beer:

Turbo

[phatdaddy]

shoulda called, i got a ditch witch that would have knocked that out in 15 or 20 minutes.
i charge by the hour, but the mobilization would have been a bear(round trip fl to mass) looks good. i do not have a garage now and i miss it baddddddd.

[Skools Out]

i have a ditch witch here too in NC little closer lol

[macojoe]

turbinedoctor MJ it looks really nice but there are two things I would like to point out,

1) a straight trench uses less pipe and cable.

2) How come we only see others doing the work?
1. My son has no seance of direction!! But the hole was wide enough that the pipe went straight.

2. Cause I not stupid!! :hide:

[bradford]

Cause I not stupid!! :hide:
Well said.

[lumberslinger178]

looks good mj, if I were closer i'd be all over that... for a free fishing trip that is.....haha , what kinda siding are you useing ? do yu have a coastal wind rating to deal with ?

[reelapeelin]

looks good mj, if I were closer i'd be all over that... for a free fishing trip that is.....haha , what kinda siding are you useing ? do yu have a coastal wind rating to deal with ?


If it'll w/stand all the phartin' that'll go on in that thing, it'll take anything the wind can throw at it!!...:laugh:

[macojoe]

No wind rules, and T11 for the siding, You get up here I will give you 3 fishing trips :)

[Stinky_Hooker]

4' deep...WOW. Ive never burried one more than a foot...LOL Most times its 6".

[macojoe]

It be destroyed for sure here!!

No work today, My truck had a front wheel berrin go today :cen: garage wanted $500, my son and i did it for $125 :sun:

[msbhammer]

WOW, really impressed MJ. Thats no shed, Thats an MJ garage for sure. Looking good.
What size ceiling rafters you going with ? I went with 2x12, but think that was over kill. Wish I would have gone with a 2x10 and save some cash.

My cousin came over today and wired up my garage. All I did was really watch, since I know crap about electriacl.

[msbhammer]

Oh, I dig the chick with the nail gun. Power tools and women are "HOT". : )-

[Monkey Butler]

Looks really good MJ. Glad to see that you are making progress before fishing take priority!

[C YENSEN]

my only question is why you used those pre-fab deck supports and did not pour concrete footers? seems like you are going to have trouble down the road if one or two of those concrete holsters sinks in a hard rain....

[Blue_Runner]

Nice work MJ. All this garage talk is getting me inspired. I have a few too many balls in the air right now. Hopefully sooner than later I will embark on a quest to build the Blue Runner man cave LOL.

[macojoe]

Thanks all.
CY the town will not allow any footings unless i was making it a permanent building then there is a whole host of things that had to be done ands lots more money to spend because of them!!
This way I call it a shed and i have no inspections or any other bull crap. All sand here and water does not sit on the ground, so mud not a bad thing here.
All I can do is build and see what happens over time?? Good practice for the next one, I have never built anything like this in my life!
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[reelapeelin]

All I can do is build and see what happens over time?? Good practice for the next one, I have never built anything like this in my life!



That's OK...The chick w/the nail-gun looks like she knows what she's doin'...

Got anymore pics of her?? :hide:

[C YENSEN]

I hear ya....still probably could have poured some concrete and set the blocks on the concrete....would have been easier to level.....:head:

[macojoe]

Whats level mean??

Thats my uncles girl friend, she is 52 and has a ton of energy!! We showed her how to use the gun and she stole it!! Dam women always taking the power tools:nice:

[C YENSEN]

not sure what level means....ask Lumber....he may know:haha:

[reelapeelin]

not sure what level means....ask Lumber....he may know:haha:


Yeah...and he can probably tell ya a lil somethin' about square and plumb too...and what happens when it AIN'T :bat:

[macojoe]

Its almost level, Its square, whats plumb?? See what happens this next winter? Started the sidding yesterday, hoping to have all done this weekend but the roof. But we are calling for some rain

[Mac_Attack]

Nice job MJ. Don't forget to put the third pipe in for the cable TV. Billy Mac :clap:

[Blue_Runner]

2nd what Mac said about the cable....and get yourself a little woodstove for the cold northern winters. When I build I'm definitely going with a woodstove.

[macojoe]

Just like in a boat, I have a rope in the tube underground just to be able to pull other things thur!
Wood stove will be in there! :nice:

[reelapeelin]

Nice job MJ. Don't forget to put the third pipe in for the cable TV. Billy Mac :clap:


...and a vent thru the roof for the dumper!!...:butt:

[Blue_Runner]

Wood stove will be in there! :nice:
:party::party::party:

[C YENSEN]

so are you putting in a porcelain throne?

[axespino]

Whats the square footage and are you using a set of drawings or build as you go. I need to build something for my mom but don't want to get a contractor to do it. Any info you have will be appreciated. Thanks

[macojoe]

16 x 24 = 384 sq, but I am doing a Gambril roof so I will have a 2nd floor for storage so that's 768 sq
Building from my head, no plans (now that's scary!!) I am not a builder at all and I have made a few mistakes and I am sure there will be a few more to come! But it will be solid and last as long s I am alive that's for sure.

Cost for the basic building is about $5000 I am sure after flooring the 2nd floor and doing the electric and water I will be at $6000

Heck my house is a ranch 30 x 24 768 sq, They are the same!! My wife asked if I was going to live in it, I said if need be!

[phatdaddy]

"gambril roof"
not familar with that term

Is that wind talking or yankee talking for gabled rooF?

[nipper]

Not wind talking at all. He means a gambrel roof. Kind of hard to describe, but it does exist. Just google gambrel roof and I think you will immediately recognize the style.

[Skools Out]

hey MJ come on down once you're done with the siding, then you can help put siding on my shop :sly: it's a little larger but no biggie. it 40' x 60' with 16 ft walls.

[C YENSEN]

how is it coming??:pic:

[Blue_Runner]

Gambrel roof = aka a barn-style roof.

My house has one and looks a lot like a barn....ask skools, he has seen it.

I built my house when I was 23 and only had 1 bedroom w/all living quarters on the 2nd story. It is 28' x 36'. Without the gambrel roof there wouldn't have been much room at all upstairs. Now since I've had kids I finished off the bottom half which used to be kinda like a garage. Put in 2 bedrooms, laundry room, a full bath, and nice big closets. Looking forward to add on a garage with an extra room upstairs very very soon. My builder said he'd be ready to start in a month...that was 3 weeks ago. Foundation is in and part of it is already concreted.

MJ - what kind of stairs will you use to access the upstairs? Stairs inside or outside? How wide? If inside the stair casing can take up a lot of room. I'm assuming it will be inside and only wide enough to be practical as to not use too much space but still be able to carry stuff up to the loft.

Looks good, wish I could start building a shop.

[macojoe]

well time for a update

MJ - what kind of stairs will you use to access the upstairs? Stairs inside or outside? How wide? If inside the stair casing can take up a lot of room. I'm assuming it will be inside and only wide enough to be practical as to not use too much space but still be able to carry stuff up to the loft.

Looks good, wish I could start building a shop.

It will be inside and it will be as small as i can get away with. s you will see I have let the building get away from me some!
Permit said i could be 16 x 24 and no more then 20 feet tall, well its now 19' 10":zip: And I think i hve to pile some xdirt around thwe building to help with the measure!!


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So wht you think??

[Monkey Butler]

That is one heck of a temp building. Nice job.

Noticed the Seacraft in the yard, what's up with that?

[macojoe]

The Seacraft belongs to BS I was storing it for the winter for him.

[chumbucket]

You could have offered him indoor storage if this project was started earlier.
You're out of control!!!!!!!!! :oh: I think you're pushing the building permit envelope regarding what's considered a shed.

[willy]

Here in the Peoples Republic of NJ they would be all over me like stink on sh!t if I drew a permit for a shed and did all that.
Good luck Wind Talker, it is looking good and like you guys are doing a good job

[lumberslinger178]

Here here, willys rite...... Im in the process of trying to get a permit to replace an existing deck in my town and its total BS what there doing to me and my homeowner , by the time im done they will have enough engineers , surveys infromation etc to build a new skyway bridge to europe.

I only get a pay check when job starts and finishes , they (the building dept ) get theres every friday

[macojoe]

well it is 16x24 and it is a gambrel, and it is under 20 feet, so whats the problem?? I just past my budget yesterday of $5000 I going to have to ask obama for a bail out!!

[chumbucket]

That can just barely pass for a gambrel roof. That's gonna be a kick in the nutz when they tell you to take it down. You just might have a battle brewing if any neighbors rat you out. :fight:

[bigshrimpin]

Holy Crap!! That thing is enormous!! MJ - I'm looking forward to this summer. Finish that thing up so we can go fishing . . . Seacraft will be gone May 29th!! Looking forward to being new neighbors.

[phatdaddy]

BS, are you saying your gonna be living in MJ's back yard. the way he goes through motors and you fix them, it would be win-win.

[C YENSEN]

:you::oh: that not a shed....thats a dam high rise.....holy cow man...you gonna rent that thing out? bet you could get 3 bedrooms in there....

[macojoe]

He is not moving in the back yard, but maybe close:sly:

I might have to change the name of the building from shed to work shop

[Blue_Runner]

Nice progress, its going to be nice to have the extra room. I don't blame you....make it as big as possible! Doesn't cost that much more and you'll be glad you did.

[macojoe]

Finally someone on my side! LOL

[Blue_Runner]

:you:

[reelapeelin]

Finally someone on my side! LOL

I'm on your side...Me and my buildin' buddy put up 52' X 36' er for a guy here...3 12' rollup doors on front, plus walk door in center...insulated it, lined it inside w/OSB, built a 16' work-bench along back wall...he spends more time there than in the house...or that's his wife's story anyway...we put the cedar-shingle lookin' vinyl siding on it...looks great and stays toasty all winter...we put a floor-drain in where he parks the boat...had open space made into the trusses and floored that so he's got GOBS of storage up there...:beer:

[Blue_Runner]

Reel, I know a guy up I-85 from you who needs one just like that.............................................. .............me!!!!!!! When shall we start? :party:

[randlemanboater]

Make that 2 REEL!:fam:

[Blue_Runner]

After 61 years my dad has finally decided to bite the bullet and is having a metal building put up.

It is going to be 40 x 40 w/ two 10' x 10' side-entry garage doors. Insulated side-walls and cieling.

Cost installed: $31k (doesn't include grading)

Makes you feel better doesn't it MJ?!?!?! I'm anxious to see if my boat will fit into a 10' garage door with the top up/enclosure on. I think it will fit by 3 inches. :beer:

[C YENSEN]

Cost installed: $31k (doesn't include grading)



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[macojoe]

Well things have slowed down some since my hospital stay a few weeks ago but here is a update.
Both top walls are framed now, siding add windows and front door and I be closed up. Get some stain on there and I can start moving in.

[lumberslinger178]

lookin good mj ,

get those gable ends framed and sheathed before a spring thunder storm whips up. I'd be afraid of loseing the roof....

[nipper]

Now that is a serious gambrel roof. Hey, whose Seacraft is that in your driveway?

[Blue_Runner]

Almost there! Looks roomy!

[macojoe]

umberslinger178 lookin good mj ,

get those gable ends framed and sheathed before a spring thunder storm whips up. I'd be afraid of loseing the roof....

One side will be done tomorrow and the other on Thursday if all goes right!

nipper Now that is a serious gambrel roof. Hey, whose Seacraft is that in your driveway?

That belongs to BS, I stored it for him this winter, he will be coming for it soon.

Blue_Runner Almost there! Looks roomy!


Roomy is a understatement! Thanks all!

[chumbucket]

That belongs to BS, I stored it for him this winter, he will be coming for it soon.

:you::haha: :bsflag: :laugh:

[macojoe]

Well no updates since June, with health issues getting a bit better I have been working on the man cave, its coming a long great!! Going to start moving all my stuff in real soon!!

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Them pallet racks are 12' each and the wood bench is 10', Them pallet racks are the balls!! They are solid benches with storage on top and bottom

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[parishht]

Looks good MJ, you may even inspire me to fix my three car garage or my 80 X 60 barn or my equipment shed that is the same size as your mancave.

[macojoe]

thanks prishht, wish I had that much space!!

[Blue_Runner]

Very nice Maco man!

[reelapeelin]

It looks GREAT!!...lotta hard work...good stuff, but you better put some insulation in those walls before you fill it up so much you can't get to 'em...and old man winter rolls in and makes a popsicle factory outta yer mancave!!... :clap:

[fishingwithblue]

God that's awsome, you even put a stripper pole in it,,,brilliant!

[nipper]

Funny FWB! I noticed the support pole, but didn't see the potential.

[Franco]

I'll give you $10 for the Radar!

[Blue_Runner]

Funny FWB! I noticed the support pole, but didn't see the potential.

Me either!
I'll give you $10 for the Radar!
I'll give you $12.50. :hide:

[macojoe]

Thanks Guys, the stripper pole has been talked about more then you know!! But is reserved for the 2nd floor were nthe pole table and couch is going!:sly:

[drbabe]

Good lookin' project. Gotta love a shed. Gambrel is easy and uses shorter spans (lighter lumber). Any skylights? How you gonna get the Ox in?

[macojoe]

No leaking sky lights for me, and to get the Ox in there I would have had to have 14 foot ceilings!

Just a nice big work shop for me to hang in, just bought a heater today for first floor. Hope to finish the wireing this week then add insulation.

[willy]

gonna be sweet:clap: Wind talker

[C YENSEN]

damn...looks great...but I did not see any stairs???

[phester]

damn...looks great...but I did not see any stairs???
the ladder in pic #8 [??]

[C YENSEN]

good luck getting a pool table up that ladder....lol:you:

[macojoe]

Ladder is Temporary, I plan on doing stairs over the winter, as far as the pool table goes thats what that sliding door is for, I am going to install on 2nd floor for light air and when needed take the glass out for the big stuff!:laugh:

[valiant_200]

I finally got a chance to look at this thread.

The shed looks good man. Congratulations. I like the pallet racks. They really make good use of limited space and they are strong enough to lay a motor on!

I'll have to bring The Petal by so she can dance on your stripper pole. :love:

[chumbucket]

I finally got a chance to look at this thread.

The shed looks good man. Congratulations. I like the pallet racks. They really make good use of limited space and they are strong enough to lay a motor on!

I'll have to bring The Petal by so she can dance on your stripper pole. :love:
I know this last trip was for extenuating circumstances (sorry for the loss of your friend), but next time your up here for a longer stay, we have to finally meet John. :hi: