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Mac_Attack
09-29-2008, 04:46 PM
I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."

* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

* Name your kids Willow , Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first
black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs,
Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

* If your total resume is: local sports reporter, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the Govenor of the State of with only 650,000 people, then your'e qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex 20education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America

* If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA , your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

willy
09-29-2008, 07:54 PM
Gotta tell ya Mac that is probably the biggest line of one sided B.S Ive ever seen, especially in regards to the Obamination resume.

Mac_Attack
09-29-2008, 08:12 PM
I know it is Willy. I get tired of hearing how bad Obama is. I thought I throw out the other side.

Vote November 4th! Billy Mac :beer:

dmoore
09-29-2008, 08:19 PM
I though it was kinda good.........D

Mac_Attack
09-29-2008, 08:46 PM
It has a lot of truths on both sides. It is weighted more for our next president though.
Vote November 4th! Billy Mac :beer:

THEFERMANATOR
09-29-2008, 08:50 PM
It has a lot of truths on both sides. It is weighted more for our next president though.
Vote November 4th! Billy Mac :beer:

And this is what scares me the most about it.

Mac_Attack
09-29-2008, 09:00 PM
Ferm don't be scared we made it through 8 years of that idiot from Texas. I voted for GW in the first election. If I only knew. Ferm we'll be OK.

Vote November 4th! Billy Mac :beer:

THEFERMANATOR
09-29-2008, 09:53 PM
Ferm don't be scared we made it through 8 years of that idiot from Texas. I voted for GW in the first election. If I only knew. Ferm we'll be OK.

Vote November 4th! Billy Mac :beer:

I personally for one don't think W has done that bad of a job. Why did W get in in the first place? The nation had had CLINTON and was done with a democratic party as I recall it. Now that all of CLINTONS plans have come into affect the nation calls BUSH the worst ever. I don't know much about politics, but even I know that a presidents plans take years to even begin, let alone take full affect. Old SLICK WILLY reminds me of a boss I used to have, he could take a turd and make everybody believe it was a diamond. He could even make it look like one. But in the end it was still a turd, and it always came back and reflected on him. I personally feel that W caught the blunt of old BILLS policies, and he had to pay the price for BILL playing swallow the leader with MONICA when he should have been running the country. I may be wrong, but it's my opinion. And we all know what opinions are like.

charlie_the_tuna
09-30-2008, 12:49 AM
mccain
*
palin

08.

CaptJJ
09-30-2008, 05:39 AM
More BS that is fun reading, for the other side. You know this couldn't be "left" so one sided.


Rich Carroll articulates the thoughts that have been on many people's minds. There's too much question surrounding Obama and Michelle's real ideology. Too many sinister associations make me suspicious. Also his past is still a blank. Have you ever thought about where Obama gets all his campaign money---more than Hillary or McCain put together in such a short span of time? Do think about it..............



The Jihad Candidate




by Rich Carroll



Conspiracy theories make for interesting novels when the storyline is not so absurd that it can grasp our attention. 'The Manchurian Candidate' and 'Seven Days in May' are examples of plausible chains of events that captures the reader's imagination at best-seller level. 'What if' has always been the solid grist of fiction.
Get yourself something cool to drink, find a relaxing position, but before you continue, visualize the television photos of two jet airliners smashing into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan and remind yourself this cowardly act of Muslim terror was planned for eight years.




How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States ? As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota ? The same amount of time to create a large Muslim enclave in Detroit ? The time it took them to build over 2,000 mosques in America ? The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist clerics in our military and prisons as 'chaplains'?



Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a 'freedom fighter' when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya 's history. Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa , a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile. Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barack Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of 'racism'. Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and Islamic monies. Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa .




Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception because questioning him o n any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as 'bigoted racism'; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts. Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs.




Where is the bloodhound American 'free press' who doggedly overturned every stone in the Watergate case? Where are our nation's reporters that have placed every Presidential candidate under the microscope of detailed scrutiny; the same press who pursue Bush's 'Skull and Bones' club or ran other candidates off with persistent detective and research work? Why haven't 'newsmen' pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate during the Presidential primaries? Where are the stories about this candidate's cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa ? Since when did our national press corps become weak, timid, and silent? Why haven't they regaled us with the long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this 'out of nowhere' Democrat candidate or that his church re-printed the Hamas Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his 'close pastor friend and mentor' met with Middle East terrorist Moammar Gaddafi, (Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)? Why isn't the American press telling us this candidate is supported by every Muslim organization in the world?


(So much BS it had to be cut in two pieces, read next post)

CaptJJ
09-30-2008, 05:40 AM
this is part 2, read previous post first

As an ultimate slap in the face, be blatant in the fact your candidate has ZERO interest in traditional American values and has the most liberal voting record in U.S. Senate history. Why has the American main stream media clammed-up on any negative reporting on Barack Hussein Obama? Why will they print Hillary Rodham Clinton's name but never write his middle name? Is it not his name? Why, suddenly, is ANY information about this candidate not coming from main stream media, but from the blogosphere by citizens seeking facts and the truth? Why isn't our media connecting the dots with Islam? Why do they focus on 'those bad American soldiers' while Islam slaughters non Muslims daily in 44 countries around the globe? Why does our media refer to Darfur as 'ethnic cleansing' instead of what it really is; Muslims killing non Muslims! There is enough strange, anti- American activity surrounding Barack Hussein Obama to peek the curiosity of any reporter. WHERE IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE MEDIA!?




A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum by Mohamed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood. 'The process of settlement' of Muslims in America , Akram explained, 'is a civilization jihad process.' This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand that their work in 'America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions.'



There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and finance. Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject of Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is really peaceful. Where is our investigative press? Any criticism of Islam or their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily around the globe, brings-forth a volley of 'racist' from the left-wing Democrat crowd.







Lies and deception behind a master plan - the ingredients for 'The Manchurian Candidate' or the placement of an anti-American President in our nation's White House? Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run for President at the same time Islamic sharia finance and law is trying to make advancing strides into the United States ? Is it mere coincidence this same candidate wants to dis-arm our nuclear capability at a time when terrorist Muslim nations are expanding their nuclear weapons capability? Is it mere coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of global jihad from Muslim nations?







Change for America ?







What change?







To become another 'nation of Islam'?

randlemanboater
09-30-2008, 06:31 AM
Both Obama and McCain support the bailout...........I guess I'll be voting for Nader.

CaptJJ
09-30-2008, 06:40 AM
I still wish Paris Hilton would run with Jessica Simpson for VP. Gettin' f***ed by them would at least be more tolerable.

Blue_Runner
09-30-2008, 09:01 AM
Mac your post is littered with FACTS and scientific data .... you should be ashamed!!
:clap:

willy
09-30-2008, 09:30 AM
yea, ok

C YENSEN
09-30-2008, 09:38 AM
sorry boys but I just cant get into an election where I dont want either guy to win......:head:

csvencer
09-30-2008, 09:58 AM
At least this whole election thing has made for some good comedy. Anyone been watching SNL lately? Hell have you been watching the Palin interviews...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMypXCUWMw

Truth is Comedy sometimes.

-Svence

THEFERMANATOR
09-30-2008, 10:10 AM
Both Obama and McCain support the bailout...........I guess I'll be voting for Nader.

Hey RM, you may want to re-check this. McCain went AGAINST the bailout on FRIDAY, making him an outsider in it.

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/73110/McCain%27s-Brilliant-Play-Bets-Presidency-on-Blocking-Bailout-Deal?tickers

It's not like BHO has a truth squad or anything to stop ads he doesn't like, oh wait he does.

http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

reelapeelin
09-30-2008, 10:28 AM
Ya know...I try not to pay much attention to what others say about the candidates...what I do is let them speak for themselves...judge 'em on what comes directly from their mouths...

BTW...have ya seen Sarah's interview w/Katie?...

Being the father of two daughters, I want a woman to be in the White House to demonstrate to them there is no "glass ceiling"...and one day Sarah Palin may be ready...but put that one back in the oven...it ain't done yet...

csvencer
09-30-2008, 11:25 AM
Ya know...I try not to pay much attention to what others say about the candidates...what I do is let them speak for themselves...judge 'em on what comes directly from their mouths...

BTW...have ya seen Sarah's interview w/Katie?...

Being the father of two daughters, I want a woman to be in the White House to demonstrate to them there is no "glass ceiling"...and one day Sarah Palin may be ready...but put that one back in the oven...it ain't done yet...


Agreed. She may be the single reason I won't vote for McCain. Haven't decided anything yet, but the more I hear her talk and realize she will be representing the US as our VP...ouch.

-Svence

willy
09-30-2008, 01:24 PM
Let me see if I follow the logic here, we have elected govenors of small states, including clinton to the whitehouse after they turned their state into welfare soaked hole in which good old boy politics and actual government corruption was the day to day reality, and here we have a conservative woman, who is smart as a wip, comes from down to earth people and has done wonderful things for her state, has bucked her own party to do the right thing DOZENS of times. Has a deep connection to her family, citizens of the state she lives and a great love of the U.S. and is proud of that, has an 80% approval rating by her constituents and you guys would not consider her for VP.
WTF
Is it she has no foreign policy experience?
Well quite frankly bill clinton had zero, thats right zero foreign policy experience when he was elected the the Presidency.
Margaret Thatcher had zero, zero foreign policy experience when she was elected to prime minister of england.
Ronald Reagan had zero, zero.
If you want your daughters to see what a bright intelligent woman can turn out to be, I think you might want to reconsider your position. She goes into that office with more in common with all of us here than any candidate in my memory, she is honest and trustworthy and if you think she cannot grasp that job as well as anyone else going into that position you are either underestimating her or possibly would prefer just to see a liberal type person in that position. Which if that is the case so be it, but reconsideration is in order when you consider she has about as much experience and qualification for her job as obama has for his.

csvencer
09-30-2008, 01:46 PM
Willy- Have you watched any of the Couric interviews? I am not saying you have to be a model public speaker to be VP but come on...

Interesting read with sources, I like sources...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-kurtzman/sarah-palin-by-the-number_b_127355.html

-Svence

nipper
09-30-2008, 02:07 PM
Interesting link Svence. I was initially very impressed with Ms. Palin, but each day I become more convinced we would be in very deep trouble with her as VP, let alone President.

Blue_Runner
09-30-2008, 02:56 PM
If Palin becomes VP she stands a 20% ++ chance of becoming the president of the united states during McCain's presidency.

She's a dandy lady but heck so is Mrs. Blue. The difference is Mrs. Blue has enough sense not to run for VP. Mrs. Blue even has foreign policy experience - she has been to Canada. :beer:

Thursday is going to be interesting. Maybe she will surprise us all but its not looking good. JMO

Mac_Attack
09-30-2008, 03:27 PM
As long as she's reading from a telepromter she does fine. On her own you don't know what you're going to get. Thursday should be interesting. They'll probably pass a resolution, McCain will claim it's his idea and Palin will only talk about how great John is.

Vote November 4th! Billy Mac :beer:

bradford
09-30-2008, 05:27 PM
Both Obama and McCain support the bailout...........I guess I'll be voting for Nader.

Hey Randleman, check out Bob Barr.

www.BobBarr2008.com (http://www.BobBarr2008.com)

phatdaddy
09-30-2008, 05:47 PM
i am for anybody who is not a lawyer.................

reelapeelin
09-30-2008, 06:07 PM
i am for anybody who is not a lawyer.................


Ron Paul is a doctor...he got my vote in the primary...

reelapeelin
09-30-2008, 06:17 PM
Let me see if I follow the logic here, we have elected govenors of small states, including clinton to the whitehouse after they turned their state into welfare soaked hole in which good old boy politics and actual government corruption was the day to day reality, and here we have a conservative woman, who is smart as a wip, comes from down to earth people and has done wonderful things for her state, has bucked her own party to do the right thing DOZENS of times. Has a deep connection to her family, citizens of the state she lives and a great love of the U.S. and is proud of that, has an 80% approval rating by her constituents and you guys would not consider her for VP.
WTF
Is it she has no foreign policy experience?
Well quite frankly bill clinton had zero, thats right zero foreign policy experience when he was elected the the Presidency.
Margaret Thatcher had zero, zero foreign policy experience when she was elected to prime minister of england.
Ronald Reagan had zero, zero.
If you want your daughters to see what a bright intelligent woman can turn out to be, I think you might want to reconsider your position. She goes into that office with more in common with all of us here than any candidate in my memory, she is honest and trustworthy and if you think she cannot grasp that job as well as anyone else going into that position you are either underestimating her or possibly would prefer just to see a liberal type person in that position. Which if that is the case so be it, but reconsideration is in order when you consider she has about as much experience and qualification for her job as obama has for his.


Actually she lost me when I realized she really believes our soldiers are dying in Iraq on a mission from God!!...and all the stuff about her you mention is lovely, but nothing there qualifies her to fly right seat in the White House...

Don't go flailin' the Democrat poop at me either ... you know that ain't where I'm comin' from...ya old coot...

cterrebonne
10-01-2008, 02:50 PM
Actually she lost me when I realized she really believes our soldiers are dying in Iraq on a mission from God!!...and all the stuff about her you mention is lovely, but nothing there qualifies her to fly right seat in the White House...

Don't go flailin' the Democrat poop at me either ... you know that ain't where I'm comin' from...ya old coot...

ok besides having a different religious view from her, can you tell me two things that barrack has done in order for him to be qualified to be commander in chief? community organier does not count because its very easy to organize people who believe the same thing you do, thats easy.

Blue_Runner
10-01-2008, 04:02 PM
Obama

become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs,
Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees
Palin
If your total resume is: local sports reporter, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the Govenor of the State of with only 650,000 people

CaptJJ
10-01-2008, 05:53 PM
Okay, how's this one...
It's Just 143 Days.... http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/pr01/emoticons/smile_omg.gif


143 days




ˇYou couldn't get a job at McDonald's and become district manager after 143 days of experience.
ˇYou couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience ofbeing a surgeon.
ˇYou couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.
ˇYou couldn't join the military and become a colonel after 143 days of experience
ˇYou couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly anchor after 143 days of experience.

BUT***8230;

From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World...143 days

We all have to start somewhere. The Senate is a good start, but a fter 143 days, that's all it is - a start.

AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is alright with this and campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are fine with this for the President of the United States of America? Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol.

AMAZING ISN'T IT!!
THINK ON THIS!

Mac_Attack
10-01-2008, 07:03 PM
Broc, whatever he's still the best choice for the average American. Mc Cain with all his experience just does nothing for me. Billy Mac :beer:


Vote November 4th!

phatdaddy
10-01-2008, 08:24 PM
ˇYou couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.

you can in florida, all you have to do is win the election.......

maybe that is whats wrong with the educational system in florida!!

charlie_the_tuna
10-02-2008, 12:51 AM
mccain
*
palin
08

reelapeelin
10-02-2008, 09:49 AM
Broc, whatever he's still the best choice for the average American. Mc Cain with all his experience just does nothing for me. Billy Mac :beer:


Vote November 4th!

ANYTHING'S better than a Bush Third Term...ANYTHING!!...

Bygracealone
10-02-2008, 07:34 PM
As for Palin, I won't vote for her or McCain or the BHO and Biden show...

I agree that her interviews have been excruciating to watch; I can't even watch the clips anymore when they come on TV.

That said, this is the sort of thing that happens when people get thrown into the political machine. When she first came onto the VP scene she did very well; she presented herself and HER views very well. In fact, I don't think she used a teleprompter during her first public speech; she used her notecards and she barely had to use them. All this to say that I believe what's happened to her is that she's had to take a crash course in learning the party lines and memorizing the party answers. She's not been permitted to be herself and represent herself and HER views and all that stress has come through clear as day in these recent interviews.

She really does just need to be herself and admit the fact that she's not the typical B.S.ing politician and that she doesn't know a number of things. But who does? Most of them don't know what they're talking about, they just fake it better than she has. I think that if she comes across as the "average Joe sixpack" that she claims to be, she will do fine and will earn the respect of us average joes who are tired of all the career politicians up there at our capitol... For her sake, I hope she does well tonight. We'll see in about half an hour.