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C YENSEN
08-13-2008, 02:05 PM
ok who tows with a V6 or Straight 6? how does it handle the V? what kind of car is it? looking at a jeep grand cherokee straight 6 and want to know how it will tow?

cterrebonne
08-13-2008, 02:43 PM
ok who tows with a V6 or Straight 6? how does it handle the V? what kind of car is it? looking at a jeep grand cherokee straight 6 and want to know how it will tow?

i would try the six and if there isnt enough power, SUPERCHARGE IT!

jasonh1972
08-13-2008, 03:06 PM
i have a 2000 with a straight that pulls it just fine and no problems the trip is about 140 miles

C YENSEN
08-13-2008, 03:21 PM
i have a 2000 with a straight that pulls it just fine and no problems the trip is about 140 miles

so she handles her ok? not too much weight? i have a wrangler with the straight six and it is all she has to pull it. just does not feel safe. the boat weighs more than the wrangler.

drbarbara
08-13-2008, 03:27 PM
I trailer mine with a Sienna 2000 with a V6., No problems so far.

bcmarinamanager
08-13-2008, 03:55 PM
I use an I-6 with absolutely no problem whatsoever.... of course it's a 5.9L Cummins. :)

dbetterred
08-13-2008, 04:04 PM
I have an '05 pathfinder. It tows the V20 easily. It's rated for 6000 lbs and I believe it.

BRIELLY
08-13-2008, 04:42 PM
I have an 83 full size cherokee with a straight 6. Its basically the same engine as in the newer ones. The truck is much heavier than the newer cherokees and Gc's and it pulls the v without any troubles.

randlemanboater
08-13-2008, 05:26 PM
Read this.

http://wellcraftv20.com/community/showthread.php?t=9921&highlight=honda+pilot

cfelton
08-13-2008, 07:20 PM
I tow my V with a 97 4wd Tacoma with a 190 hp V6, automatic transmission and it pulls it OK. I always take it out of overdrive when I tow it.I had a little trouble stopping it so I added a set of Kodiak disc brakes to the front axle and now it stops great!

Seacrets
08-13-2008, 10:34 PM
Pulled with a Cherokee 4.0 liter 6 and it did a great job.

THEFERMANATOR
08-13-2008, 11:02 PM
I used PINKY on several ocasions to haul my V-20, it did pretty well. I held it down to 55-60 since I didn't have trailer brakes, but other than that it was fine. The GRAND's downfall would be the 42RE tranny. They are notoriously troublesome and weak, and should never have been put behind the 4.0L's torque. The WRANGLER you have uses a de-rated 4.0L(CHRYSLER doesn't publish that part, but the TJ's only got about 175-180HP program), and the GRAND would have the true HO 190HP or 195HP version in it. The regular CHEROKEE has a MUCH better drivetrain in it, but you still have that short wheelbase. If your not in a hurry, then any of the 4.0L SUV's will do the job. Your WRANGLER if it's an auto will most likely have 3.08 gears which makes them doggy. The CHEROKEE will most likely have 3.55's, and a GRAND will have 3.73's.

What year GRAND are you looking at? If your looking at a 99 or newer look for a V 4.7L, you will thank yourself in the end if you may tow much(not to mention the PERMANENT grin everytime you hit the go pedal). If it's a 93-98, then the 4.0L would be my choice. The 5.2L's are OK, but still fairly thirsty. It boils down to personal preference in the end though. The 4.0L in any year can pull a V-20 at highway speeds safely, but braking is best acoplished with trailer brakes as a bonus. I wish I would have taken a picture of my 97 CHEROKEE towing a WELLCRAFT 248 with a bracket and twin 225's on a tri-axle trailer. It pulled it fine, but it took almost a half mile to stop from 45.

taqwache
08-14-2008, 01:02 AM
You wont have any problems towing it with a 6. I pulled mine with a 95 S10 blazer with a 4.3L and it did the job fine. But believe it or not, you will get better gas mileage towing with a V8. Mainly because it doesn't have to work as hard to do the same work. Right now I use a 96 suburban with a MPI 350 to pull my V20 and my race car. The only thing better then that, in my mind, would be a diesel.

csvencer
08-14-2008, 06:20 AM
I use our Jeep Liberty all the time and it is great. Also did a long haul up from FL to VA with the Liberty and she sat right at 65 with no problems.

-Svence

C YENSEN
08-14-2008, 07:16 AM
thanks boys......and Ferm....I am looking for the nicest, least expensive i can find:beer:

Pipe_Dream
08-14-2008, 07:44 AM
You wont have any problems towing it with a 6. I pulled mine with a 95 S10 blazer with a 4.3L and it did the job fine. But believe it or not, you will get better gas mileage towing with a V8. Mainly because it doesn't have to work as hard to do the same work. Right now I use a 96 suburban with a MPI 350 to pull my V20 and my race car. The only thing better then that, in my mind, would be a diesel.

I agree, especially if you tow A LOT. Next to a diesel, the V-8 will pull it so well that you almost won't know it's there. And there's an added degree of safety in having a tow vehicle more closely aligned in weight with what you're towing. I used to tow with my '95 4Runner, which was admittedly underpowered, but even once I got it up to speed it didn't feel nearly as secure as the Suburban. The big truck is just superior for towing all around, and there are a lot of nice used ones for sale these days.

C YENSEN
08-14-2008, 10:11 AM
well i only tow 4 miles round trip usually once a week. so i think a 6 will work. would rather have an 8 but we will have to see what i can find cheap.

my goal is to get at least $7500 out of the wrangler and buy something for 4 or 5 thousand and put a nest egg away for when junior is born in december......:head:

THEFERMANATOR
08-14-2008, 11:10 AM
well i only tow 4 miles round trip usually once a week. so i think a 6 will work. would rather have an 8 but we will have to see what i can find cheap.

my goal is to get at least $7500 out of the wrangler and buy something for 4 or 5 thousand and put a nest egg away for when junior is born in december......:head:

Get a 6 if that's all your towing. I towed furthur than that with my 97 hauling that 248.

Pipe_Dream
08-14-2008, 11:25 AM
well i only tow 4 miles round trip usually once a week. so i think a 6 will work. would rather have an 8 but we will have to see what i can find cheap.

my goal is to get at least $7500 out of the wrangler and buy something for 4 or 5 thousand and put a nest egg away for when junior is born in december......:head:
Oh yeah, you'll be just fine with a 6, then.

nipper
08-14-2008, 12:21 PM
I agree you will be fine with a 6. I used to tow a 20' formula with a 4.0 litre Ford Explorer. I thought I needed a little more oomph and a little newer vehicle, so I traded the Explorer for a Mercury Mountaineer (Mercury version of Explorer) with a 5.0 litre V8. The V6 4.0 really did just as well. I now tow with a Suburban, and it is a beast. I towed my V20 Cuddy with the mountaineer, and it did ok power wise, but the V pushed it around on the highway. For your short distance, you should be just fine with a 6. You won't be doing any holeshots, but you shouldn't be driving hard when towing anyway.

CaptJJ
08-14-2008, 12:41 PM
No problems with a six. My Pilot has one. I've towed it with Dodge Durango and Dakota sixes fine as well as the GM Trailblazers/Chevy model.... The most fun I had was with a heavy tongue on my old trailer and my 2000 Wrangler Sahara bounce bounce bounce bounce, but the six was fine on that too........

C YENSEN
08-14-2008, 01:09 PM
thats what i got is a wrangler and sometimes stopping scares the chit out of me. my trailer does not have brakes......:zip:

CaptJJ
08-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Yeah, I didn't bother to even get into that. I had a tandem axle and the drum brakes were blown right out of it. Stopping could get to be a little exciting at times. "Oh please please please stop, please...." I remember all to well.:beer:

THEFERMANATOR
08-14-2008, 02:05 PM
You'll definately want trailer brakes for safety reasons, but otherwise go for it. Like I said, I beat the SH!T out of mine and towed things that an F-350 should have been used for. Yet it took it in stride. Your major saving grace is that your not towing very far.

eight
08-15-2008, 12:31 AM
A grand cherokee is lighter than a wrangler. The longer wheelbase of the grand will make it more stable pulling though. The grands did have better brakes.

THEFERMANATOR
08-15-2008, 08:52 AM
A grand cherokee is lighter than a wrangler. The longer wheelbase of the grand will make it more stable pulling though. The grands did have better brakes.


The GRAND does have a longer wheelbase, but the 93-98's used the same front brakes that a CHEROKEE and WRANGLER used. They did have rear disks on most of them, but they are small. The 90+ brakes that CHRYSLER used left MCUH to be desired as far as stopping a load. My 88 CHEROKEE has GOOD brakes on it, but doesn't have the grunt of the later 91+ engines. As far as the GRAND weighing less, I highly doubt that. My lift at work would have agreed with me as well. The YJ's were pretty light, and the TJ's didn't weigh much more. That is why they have so many handling issues with the WRANGLERS and the coil springs, they are to light to really use coil springs on with there center of gravity. The GRANDS never had this issue. In 99 CHRYSLER did improve the brakes on the GRAND TREMEDOUSLY though and went with MUCH larger discs all around.

C YENSEN
08-15-2008, 11:08 AM
Ferm....you know more about Chrysler products than anyone I have ever met:beer::nice:

THEFERMANATOR
08-15-2008, 11:37 AM
Ferm....you know more about Chrysler products than anyone I have ever met:beer::nice:

I worked on em for 2 years in a dealership, and specialized in JEEPS. I also built a few JEEPS for people in the past, and my father spent 28 years working for CHRYSLER and the last 7 of that was JEEPS ONLY. SO yeah, I likes my JEEPS. Although I do like my current DAKOTA as well:love:.

I once had a guy I work with ask me if my dad read CHILTON'S manuals to me as a kid? I promptly responded "NOPE, I read them to myself".

C YENSEN
08-15-2008, 11:50 AM
so hear is a good one for you....

had a guy look at the jeep last night. love everthing about it, but he is moving to florida and when he saw it did not have AC he lost all interest. Is it possible to add AC to my wrangler? and if so how much $?

tsubaki
08-15-2008, 12:38 PM
I will quote my wife (owner of a "80 CJ),
"WHY WOULD YOU WANT AC ON A WRANGLER??? oh you're not a real Jeep person"
It used to run around $1500 to add hangon air.

C YENSEN
08-15-2008, 12:50 PM
tsubaki....... I could not agree more, but this guy has a house in Florida and says you need AC down there. :head: I told him I would try to get a quote to have it added.

THEFERMANATOR
08-15-2008, 01:08 PM
A/C is NICE to have down here. It can get pretty hot, but no where near as bad as the middle of the state can be. INDIANA was MUCH hotter for a few days when I was up there, and nothing can take KENTUCKY and MISSOURI for a miserable summer. The last time I priced an add on A/C was for around $1K-$1100 for just the kit. Most of them are fairly easy to install though.

C YENSEN
08-15-2008, 01:12 PM
ballpark on labor $$$$ ?:head:

THEFERMANATOR
08-15-2008, 01:18 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Complete-AC-Kit-Air-Conditioning-New-4-0T_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33545QQihZ017QQitemZ 270130079532QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Here's a kit for $1100, and labor shouldn't run much more than $300-$400 I wouldn't think. Most of these kits are fairly straight forward to install, the hardest part is laying the dash back which normally isn't that bad.

C YENSEN
08-15-2008, 01:20 PM
thanks man:beer: